On Saturday 09 February 2013 16:51:16 Mark wrote:
> A window manager should in my opinion do just that, manage windows. It
> has no business in managing global shortcut keys. Or is my logic
> flawed? If so, please do correct me.
In a Wayland world the compositor is responsible for input and there i
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Friday 08 February 2013 22:25:13 Mark wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>> > On Thursday, February 07, 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> >> the "start other window manager" feature(/bug? ;)
>> >
>> >
On Friday 08 February 2013 22:25:13 Mark wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 07, 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> >> the "start other window manager" feature(/bug? ;)
> >
> > In the new world, this might be an old concept that we don't ha
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Thursday, February 07, 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> the "start other window manager" feature(/bug? ;)
>
> In the new world, this might be an old concept that we don't have to drag
> over. The traditional need for this will prob
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 14:32:06 Marco Martin wrote:
>> So an application could listen for global named shortcuts and then register
>> own if those are not enough
>
> +100
>
>> then shortcuts could all have names like
>>
>> org.kde.comm
On Thursday, February 07, 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> the "start other window manager" feature(/bug? ;)
In the new world, this might be an old concept that we don't have to drag
over. The traditional need for this will probably be mostly gone.
If we want to remove it, the move to Wayla
My only comments are at the bottom, and semi-OT.
On 02/07/2013 05:51 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Thursday, February 7, 2013 14:32:06 Marco Martin wrote:
>> So an application could listen for global named shortcuts and then register
>> own if those are not enough
> +100
>
>> then shortcuts coul
On Thursday 07 February 2013 18:51:41 Kevin Ottens wrote:
> On Thursday 7 February 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > this would mean work on our part in the kglobalshortcut code in kdelibs
> > for
> > frameworks 5 and would imply that we take full maintainership of this area
> > of things.
>
On Thursday 7 February 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> this would mean work on our part in the kglobalshortcut code in kdelibs for
> frameworks 5 and would imply that we take full maintainership of this area
> of things.
Please!
Especially because a) I love what I read so far in that th
On Thursday, February 7, 2013 14:59:58 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> remember that Wayland doesn't allow applications to just listen to key
> events. If we design something new (like a framework) it should keep that
> case in mind.
so we will need an external process. ok .. then i agree with your origin
On Thursday 07 February 2013 14:41:00 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Thursday 07 February 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > >From a technical point of view I just want to note that with Wayland
> > >input
> > >
> > > handling moves in the compositor anyway, so we need to work on it either
> > > way. I woul
On Thursday 07 February 2013 14:33:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> one way around this could be to have the shortcut handling encapsulated in a
> library and kded would be simply be a backup, but kwin would normally take
> the dbus interface over.
I was thinking in the direction of KWin taking the dbus
On Thursday, February 7, 2013 14:32:06 Marco Martin wrote:
> So an application could listen for global named shortcuts and then register
> own if those are not enough
+100
> then shortcuts could all have names like
>
> org.kde.common.media.forward
> org.kde.common.fullscreen
> org.kde.workspace.
On Thursday 07 February 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> >From a technical point of view I just want to note that with Wayland input
> >
> > handling moves in the compositor anyway, so we need to work on it either
> > way. I would prefer to get the global shortcut handling already right now
>
> > int
On Thursday, February 7, 2013 13:43:46 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> This situation *sucks*.
you just described exactly the problems i noted sometime around 4.0. i gave up
trying to get change somewhere around 4.2 or so. the maintainer of the current
system simply disagrees that what you and i find to b
On Thursday 07 February 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to add another global shortcut to KWin and found the
> situation so disappointing that I think we should do something about it in
> PW2.
>
> So what happened: I wanted to add a new shortcut for showing application
> m
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