Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-09 Thread John Layt
On 9 May 2014 10:04, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > XFCE is affected in that way that GTK developers opened bug reports against > XFCE that their window manager is broken (stating it's the only one not > supporting that, well KWin neither). That's not exactly the way to win friends and influence peopl

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 09 May 2014 09:54:53 John Layt wrote: > On 8 May 2014 13:56, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Thursday, May 08, 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote: > >> However, to support the cross-desktop efforts, the GNOME people should > >> maybe make a few compromises (e.g. make GTK+ behave differen

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-08 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:39:49 Matthias Klumpp wrote: > 2014-05-08 9:31 GMT+02:00 Martin Gräßlin : > > Martin GräßlinOn Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 wrote: > >> Any advice on how to handle this situation is appreciated. > > > > As several people responded that I should report the issues I jus

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-08 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 08 May 2014 14:42:17 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Have there been any form of reply from them? At least something so we can > gage the level of interest in the subject? not yet, but given from the time of the replies in David's bug report I do not expect anything before tomorrow morning.

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 14:25:23 David Edmundson wrote: > Aha. Found the pattern. > > I had launched with compositing off, and then turned it on. toggling > on/off afterwards works fine as you've stated GTK doesn't detect this > properly. > > So hopefully we can ask GTK to pretend compositing is

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 14:01:35 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > The suggestion was "Try asking mclasen on irc.gnome.org #gtk+ channel." > > As for who asks as long as it's no one heavily involved in the issue but > percieved as neutral but with the technical skill to explain it as well as > understand

Re: Re: Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 13:48:23 David Edmundson wrote: > gtk3 3.12.1-2 > > oxygen-gtk is git master. strange, Hugo confirmed to me that he is able to reproduce the issues with gtk-3.12.1 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. __

Re: Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread David Edmundson
gtk3 3.12.1-2 oxygen-gtk is git master. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 13:21:58 David Edmundson wrote: > It seems changing the GTK style to Oxygen fixes a lot of the visual > problems. Kwin is doing the decoration and the borders. I don't get the > shadows with compositing on/off. > > http://imgur.com/5aiDUFq > > Martin could you try setting

Re: Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 12:53:51 David Edmundson wrote: > > I don't think that it's helpful to set up any talk between me and GNOME > > devs. They know that I don't like CSD. > > That's not even trying. Don't be that guy. Well I tried. I wrote several blog posts back in 2010 showing the issues i

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread David Edmundson
It seems changing the GTK style to Oxygen fixes a lot of the visual problems. Kwin is doing the decoration and the borders. I don't get the shadows with compositing on/off. http://imgur.com/5aiDUFq Martin could you try setting this and see which bugs remain? It seems all things are fixed, besides

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread David Edmundson
> I don't think that it's helpful to set up any talk between me and GNOME > devs. They know that I don't like CSD. That's not even trying. Don't be that guy. David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 12:37:32 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > I have a pretty good report with Andreas Nilsson and he knows all the Gnome > devs and they know him so that might be a good way in... Should I try to > contact him and perhaps set up some kind of talk between one of the devs and > you Mart

Re: Re: Compatibility problems with latest GTK+ applications

2014-05-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 11:24:03 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 07 May 2014 10:11:37 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > * A hung window can no longer be closed or moved. Technical explanation: > > there is a ping protocol to detect hung applications. KWin only sends ping > > requests when the window is