Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday, August 19, 2011 02:15:29 David wrote: > I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most > little ones. Is converting user's experience into a nightmareyour passion? i won't repeat what Martin already said, though what he said is 100% correct. i just want to add

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 18:51:30 Eric Mesa wrote: > I use it daily for my Konversation window can you set a window rule instead and achieve the same thing? -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer spons

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Sexta, 19 de Agosto de 2011 01:15:29 David você escreveu: > I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the > most little ones. Is converting user's experience into a nightmare > your passion? Nope but we tend to abuse on the amount of things we present to a user at a glance,

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:19:24 +0200 schrieb Christoph Feck : > If you remove the menu entries, at least make sure you have global > shortcuts for changing transparency quickly (+/- by 20%, set to > opaque), so that I can assign gestures to those operations. Leaving the generally valid shortcut d

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Christoph Feck
On Friday 19 August 2011 10:08:40 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > a titlebar wheelevent, even if a bit hidden, is way more ergonomic. Not every input device has a wheel. My stylus has all three mouse buttons, but no wheel. If you remove the menu entries, at least make sure you have global shortcuts f

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-19 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 19:20:08 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 > menu? That menu is really hard to use, because it's too long, yes. Also the submenus aren't great, because they require quite some patience to navigate, espec

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Markus Slopianka
On Donnerstag 18 August 2011 19:20:08 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Hi all, > > just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 > menu? Don't know if you need it, I use it regularly. Wouldn't mind moving it into the Advanced sub-menu, though. __

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - > I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most > little ones. Would you like to elaborate how this breaks anything? Would you please explain why you consider the menu (not the functionality) so important? Please note that I asked f

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread David
I don't know why do you want to break every single thing. Even the most little ones. Is converting user's experience into a nightmare your passion? -- Cheers, David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Eric Mesa
> > > > Personally I don't see a good reason for having the opacity menu at all > > and I found it kind of techy (look what we can do: isn't that awesome? > > Translucent Windows!). So convince me to not remove it :-) > > > > Cheers > > Martin I use it daily for my Konversation window -

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Quinta, 18 de Agosto de 2011 18:20:08 Martin Gräßlin você escreveu: > Hi all, > > just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 > menu? kill it die die :) > Reasons against the menu: > * menu in tasks applet does not provide the opacity (missing consistency) > * Op

Re: RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:20:08 +0200 schrieb Martin Gräßlin : > Hi all, > > just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the > Alt+F3 menu? I think it's just a leftover from the time when kwin used to control kcompmgr. I'd say the entire menu just is a mess. Most items there ar

RFC: Remove Opacity from Alt+F3 menu

2011-08-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, just an idea I had today: do we really need the opacity menu in the Alt+F3 menu? Reasons against the menu: * menu in tasks applet does not provide the opacity (missing consistency) * Opacity is not really useful as both foreground and background are modified (hard to read) and no blur b