On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:58:15 Mark wrote:
>>> Anyway, if you need any information regarding that, please just ask. I
>>> have the setup at home and i can easily compile any patches yo
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:58:15 Mark wrote:
>> Anyway, if you need any information regarding that, please just ask. I
>> have the setup at home and i can easily compile any patches you have
>> for me.
> Best would be to try whether us
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 16:00:43 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:24:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > but there's a pragmatic solution:
> > hide the fucking thing when there is only one vd.
>
> Have you seen Aurelien's suggestion of adding a button to the KCM where o
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:58:15 Mark wrote:
>> Anyway, if you need any information regarding that, please just ask. I
>> have the setup at home and i can easily compile any patches you have
>> for me.
> Best would be to try whether us
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
>> Then on to the fixing part. If you remove the pager from the default
>> setup there is only one other way to get the pager. Adding it
>> explicitly! So then the question becomes: if the user adds i
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:58:15 Mark wrote:
> Anyway, if you need any information regarding that, please just ask. I
> have the setup at home and i can easily compile any patches you have
> for me.
Best would be to try whether using KScreen improves the situation. If not get
in contact with
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 16:04:03 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:24:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > but there's a pragmatic solution:
> > > hide the fucking thing when there is only one vd.
> >
> > Have you seen
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Oliver Henshaw wrote:
> Is it feasible to show a placeholder for the (invisible) pager when
> the panel is unlocked (or just when the widget explorer is open)? That
> would circumvent some of the problems with an invisible pager that
> takes up no space.
technically
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
> Then on to the fixing part. If you remove the pager from the default
> setup there is only one other way to get the pager. Adding it
> explicitly! So then the question becomes: if the user adds it
> explicitly, should the pager "just" be visible? Regardl
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:24:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > but there's a pragmatic solution:
> > hide the fucking thing when there is only one vd.
>
> Have you seen Aurelien's suggestion of adding a button to the KCM where one
> chan
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 15:24:49 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> but there's a pragmatic solution:
>
> hide the fucking thing when there is only one vd.
Have you seen Aurelien's suggestion of adding a button to the KCM where one
changes the number of virtual desktops to add the pager to the set
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 14:29:12 Mark wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 13 February 2013 13:50:08 Mark wrote:
>> >> That's the intention and that hasn't changed. Apparently most of you
On 12 February 2013 19:06, Shaun Reich wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>>
>> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
>> * one vd by default
>> * do not show pager for one vd
>> * show pager if user uses more vds
>
>
> i agree that showin
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 14:29:12 Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 February 2013 13:50:08 Mark wrote:
> >> That's the intention and that hasn't changed. Apparently most of you
> >> seem to disagree here. Apparently i'm the only one that
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:24:06 Mark wrote:
>> When i brought this issue up in RB and moved it to this list i was
>> actually expecting a reply like: "Ohh, we introduced a new pager in
>> 4.10 that occupies space without putting any
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 15:59:36 Mark wrote:
>> I understand your reasoning, but i don't think you should do this. In
>> my opinion a plasmoid - and certainly one that's on the panel - should
>> never be invisible but still take up roo
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:24:06 Mark wrote:
> When i brought this issue up in RB and moved it to this list i was
> actually expecting a reply like: "Ohh, we introduced a new pager in
> 4.10 that occupies space without putting anything in it by default.
> Lets fix that asap." But there is n
On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 15:59:36 Mark wrote:
> I understand your reasoning, but i don't think you should do this. In
> my opinion a plasmoid - and certainly one that's on the panel - should
> never be invisible but still take up room.
i think we can all agree that an empty space is a bug th
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Yes, that's what I meant with "If the pager is not in the default setup,
> then
> there is no need to hide it when only one vd is there."
+1
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On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 13:50:08 Mark wrote:
>> That's the intention and that hasn't changed. Apparently most of you
>> seem to disagree here. Apparently i'm the only one that dislikes
>> having an empty space shown by default..
> to c
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:50:08 +0100, Mark wrote:
I'm just going to assume you're making a joke here.
In case you're not: bad idea!
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have arguments to back this bold claim?
>>
>>
>> Sure. I've opened
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 13:50:08 Mark wrote:
> That's the intention and that hasn't changed. Apparently most of you
> seem to disagree here. Apparently i'm the only one that dislikes
> having an empty space shown by default..
to complement what Aurelien just wrote: you need to step aside from
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:50:08 +0100, Mark wrote:
I'm just going to assume you're making a joke here.
In case you're not: bad idea!
Do you have arguments to back this bold claim?
Sure. I've opened this topic to improve the pager for default usage:
- Show it even when you have just one VD to f
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:44:31 +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 06:43:47 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:23:41 +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 06:17:45 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>> Since the virtual desktop kcm is already shown from
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:11:13 +0100, Mark wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:40:15 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
>
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 06:43:47 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:23:41 +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 February 2013 06:17:45 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> >> Since the virtual desktop kcm is already shown from within the pager
> >> applet
> >> configuration dialog
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:11:13 +0100, Mark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Aurélien Gâteau
wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:40:15 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
That would probably be the best way i guess.
But then we still have an empty taskbar ar
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:40:15 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
>>
>>> That would probably be the best way i guess.
>>> But then we still have an empty taskbar area occupied by the pager
>>> during
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:23:41 +0100, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 06:17:45 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
Since the virtual desktop kcm is already shown from within the pager
applet
configuration dialog, maybe it can simply be removed from
systemsettings?
erm no, I'm using virtual
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 06:17:45 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Since the virtual desktop kcm is already shown from within the pager
> applet
> configuration dialog, maybe it can simply be removed from
> systemsettings?
erm no, I'm using virtual desktops but not a pager and the KCM offers more
than
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:40:15 +0100, Marco Martin wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
That would probably be the best way i guess.
But then we still have an empty taskbar area occupied by the pager
during the 4.10 cycle. I can hardly imagine that to be the
intention?
It's just a
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
>
>> That would probably be the best way i guess.
>> But then we still have an empty taskbar area occupied by the pager
>> during the 4.10 cycle. I can hardly imagine that to be the intention?
>>
>>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 11:24:06 Mark wrote:
>> When i brought this issue up in RB and moved it to this list i was
>> actually expecting a reply like: "Ohh, we introduced a new pager in
>> 4.10 that occupies space without putting anyt
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 11:40:15 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
> > That would probably be the best way i guess.
> > But then we still have an empty taskbar area occupied by the pager
> > during the 4.10 cycle. I can hardly imagine that to be the intention?
>
On Wednesday 13 February 2013, Mark wrote:
> That would probably be the best way i guess.
> But then we still have an empty taskbar area occupied by the pager
> during the 4.10 cycle. I can hardly imagine that to be the intention?
>
> It's just a simple QML one liner.. If you want i can commit th
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 11:24:06 Mark wrote:
> When i brought this issue up in RB and moved it to this list i was
> actually expecting a reply like: "Ohh, we introduced a new pager in
> 4.10 that occupies space without putting anything in it by default.
> Lets fix that asap." But there is not
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Le Wednesday 13 February 2013 11:04:06 Martin Gräßlin a écrit :
>> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 10:58:09 Mark wrote:
>> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>> > > Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
Le Wednesday 13 February 2013 11:04:06 Martin Gräßlin a écrit :
> On Wednesday 13 February 2013 10:58:09 Mark wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
[snip]
> > >> Why are you folks discarding my usecase complete
On Wednesday 13 February 2013 10:58:09 Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
> >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin
> >
> > wrote:
>
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich wrote:
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin
> wrote:
>> >> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute s
Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit :
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin
wrote:
> >> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
> >> * one vd by default
> >> * do not show pager for one
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark wrote:
>> Why are you folks discarding my usecase completely? Not even one
>> comment on it. My usecase is very valid, i'm having it right now as i
>> type this mail.
> it's not a usecase, it's a wor
On Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark wrote:
> Why are you folks discarding my usecase completely? Not even one
> comment on it. My usecase is very valid, i'm having it right now as i
> type this mail.
it's not a usecase, it's a workaround for a bug. Windows should never ever
ever be opened on
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>>>
>>> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
>>> * one vd by default
>>> * do not show pager for one vd
>>>
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>>
>> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
>> * one vd by default
>> * do not show pager for one vd
>> * show pager if user uses more vds
>
>
> i agree that
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense:
> * one vd by default
> * do not show pager for one vd
> * show pager if user uses more vds
>
i agree that showing the pager only for on vd is a bit weird. but the issue
i
On Tuesday 12 February 2013 15:59:36 Mark wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As requested, posting this on the plasma-devel mailing list.
>
> A little background information otherwise the first few lines are odd.
> With the KDE 4.10 release the places plasmoid is partly recreated in
> QML (much kudos to that!). Howe
Hi,
As requested, posting this on the plasma-devel mailing list.
A little background information otherwise the first few lines are odd.
With the KDE 4.10 release the places plasmoid is partly recreated in
QML (much kudos to that!). However, it looks like an "odd" decision
was made to make the pla
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