Aya updates (was Re: Plasma and KWin Integration)

2009-02-16 Thread Jamboarder
> From: Sebastian Kügler > On Thursday 12 February 2009 17:44:14 Jamboarder wrote: > > Let me know what you'd like to see improved in Aya and I'll work on it. > > I hadn't had a look at Aya in a while (I think only at what has been shipped > with OpenSuse). I'm now running it for a bit and I thi

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 12 February 2009, Michael Jansen wrote: > Activity in the sense i understand it has nothing to do with > widgets/virtual desktops. it has everything to do with widget layouts. widgets are put into "Containments" which are the central organization point for what we call "Activities".

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday 12 February 2009 17:44:14 Jamboarder wrote: > > From: Sebastian Kügler > >... For more conservative setups, we can use the Aya > > theme, which should be improved. The general idea of re-using the theme's > > colors is feasible I think, though probably not for the default Oxygen > > (A

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 13 February 2009, Chani wrote: > On February 13, 2009 03:32:03 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Thursday 12 February 2009, Michael Jansen wrote: > > > a. Same widgets on all virtual desktops > > > b. Different widgets on all virtual desktops > > > c. Associating a set of widget with

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-13 Thread Chani
On February 13, 2009 03:32:03 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 12 February 2009, Michael Jansen wrote: > > > > a. Same widgets on all virtual desktops > > b. Different widgets on all virtual desktops > > c. Associating a set of widget with virtual desktops, like widget set > > a on vi

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 12 February 2009, Michael Jansen wrote: > > There's some experimental code right now, but we > > need to find a good metaphor to translate it into something that makes > > sense to the user. > > My mind immediately translated that to "Have solution, seek problem". > > I never got the ha

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-13 Thread Chani
[resending, sorry, forgot to check cc's] > But i have some ideas what i would like to have. And because i don't care > how it is named in the end i just put my wishes into this thread. :) > The following has nothing to do with activities in my opinion. I would like > to be able to configure my vi

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-13 Thread Chani
> But i have some ideas what i would like to have. And because i don't care > how it is named in the end i just put my wishes into this thread. :) > The following has nothing to do with activities in my opinion. I would like > to be able to configure my virtual desktop/widgets > > a. Same wid

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-12 Thread Jamboarder
> From: Sebastian Kügler >... For more conservative setups, we can use the Aya > theme, which should be improved. The general idea of re-using the theme's > colors is feasible I think, though probably not for the default Oxygen (Air) > theme. The Aya theme does need some touch-ups though. Let

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Jansen
> There's some experimental code right now, but we > need to find a good metaphor to translate it into something that makes sense > to the user. My mind immediately translated that to "Have solution, seek problem". I never got the hang of that activity thing. Still have no idea how someday it is

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:59:42 Lubos Lunak wrote: > > 7. Theming of kwin dialogs to match the rest of the desktop furniture. > > > > Things like the window menu are part of the desktop rather than part of > > applications and it would be great if they were coloured like the other > > pieces

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-11 Thread Lubos Lunak
Looks like we KDE people are not used to cross-posting. It would probably make sense to keep discussions on only one list (the one from which something is wanted). On Monday 09 of February 2009, Richard Moore wrote: > Plasma and KWin Integration > === > >

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-11 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Lucas Murray wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Lucas Murray > > wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Richard Moore wrote: > >> 10. Alt-Tab to desktop and panel > >> > >> The desktop and panel need to be able to get the keyboard focus to allow > >> use

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-10 Thread Zack Rusin
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 22:13:00 Zack Rusin wrote: > Well, whoever is saying that is wrong. Using the raster engine is the > opposite of what Plasma wants. The person who wrote a blog entry about how > to make it the default in Qt has been doing a huge disservice to the whole > community. Actu

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-10 Thread Zack Rusin
On Monday 09 February 2009 22:21:07 Lucas Murray wrote: > > There are a number of effects that would be possible within plasma and > > other applications if it was possible to obtain a full pixmap of a window > > (even if it is obscured). This information is available to kwin and used > > for compo

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-10 Thread Lucas Murray
Can everyone please check their CCs please, some people are only sending to one list and not the other. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Lucas Murray > wrote: > >>> >>> At the moment the shadows of shaped windows don't really work, could we

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Lucas Murray wrote: >> >> At the moment the shadows of shaped windows don't really work, could we have >> something like a separate shadow mask? > > The problem with this one is that we have yet to work out an algorithm > that can expand a window mask (KWin alread

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-10 Thread Janne Ojaniemi
> > > 8. Document modal windows. > > > > Having a way to handle document-modal windows along the lines of the > Sheets in > > MacOS. These would be positioned over their parent window and move with > the > > parent. > > If there is a detach button and doesn't interfere with resizing of the > sheet

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-10 Thread Lucas Murray
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Lucas Murray wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Richard Moore wrote: >> 10. Alt-Tab to desktop and panel >> >> The desktop and panel need to be able to get the keyboard focus to allow >> users >> without keyboards to activate and use them. > > I like it.

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-09 Thread Lucas Murray
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Richard Moore wrote: > Hi All, > > Here's the write up of the kwin and plasma integration discussion at Tokamak. > > Cheers > > Rich. > > Plasma and KWin Integration > === > > This is the resul

Re: Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-09 Thread Jud Craft
scussion at > Tokamak. > > Cheers > > Rich. > > Plasma and KWin Integration > === > > This is the results of the discussion on the areas we (the plasma team) feel > we need help from the kwin team to produce better integration. It's a >

Plasma and KWin Integration

2009-02-09 Thread Richard Moore
Hi All, Here's the write up of the kwin and plasma integration discussion at Tokamak. Cheers Rich. Plasma and KWin Integration === This is the results of the discussion on the areas we (the plasma team) feel we need help from the kwin team to produce better integr