>
> the big requirements we have in plasma is the ability to have a named
> "context" that can be associated with locations, people, documents ...
>
> context+location will likely end up being a pretty important pairing to at
> least some of our users since if i'm doing work related activities,
Good morning
This blog of labs.trolltech.com/blogs might be interesting for you. It's about
context sensitivity in Qt or Qt Mobility particularly:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/08/19/publish-and-subscribe/
Greets
Mario
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On Saturday 08 August 2009 08:06:26 Hari krishna Anandhan wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >> the big requirements we have in plasma is the ability to have a named
> >> "context" that can be associated with locations, people, documents ...
> >
> > projets, tasks, t
On Friday 07 August 2009 19:39:25 Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> > As you probably know, plasma has the concept of activities. This is
> > something that is supposed to become global concept, and not only
> > plasma-local.
> >
> > Use-cases:
> > - When John switches to the /work/ activity, he wants the
On Friday 07 August 2009, Hari krishna Anandhan wrote:
> ActivityContext: - Activity name (given by user)
> - Activity Type
the Type is a kind of categorization or even a "tag" if viewed even more
loosely. however, the big question here (as in most of these contextual
technology discussions) is:
On Friday 07 August 2009, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> > > > Btw, a bit offtopic, but shall we share favourites between those
> > > > menus?
> > >
> > > you're not sharing them? :(
>
> There are both pros and cons for this. Pros are easy to recognize.
>
> The main con (and the reason why Lancelot only loads
excellent,
when you guys have built the model for plasma,
be so nice and post a message to the usercontext mailinglist
(usercont...@lists.opendfki.de)
best
Leo
It was Hari krishna Anandhan who said at the right time 11.08.2009 08:31
the following words:
Hi Leo,
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:02 A
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> there was also the idea of plasmoids changing their contents on
> activity change,that now i suppose would be from activity type
> change... (and the activity name being just a mnrmonic name for the
> user)
Activity name is unique for each acti
Hi Leo,
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Leo Sauermann wrote:
> I think you guys still did not check out the links I have posted,
> because if you did, you would be talking about "UserWorkContextThreads"
> which are the high-level "user activity" you are talking about.
Actually I had read them co
On 8/8/09, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> On Saturday 08 August 2009 07:34:22 Chani wrote:
>> > So, here is what might be the minimum required to represent
>> > ActivityContext: - Activity name (given by user)
>> > - Activity Type
>>
>> what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with
On Saturday 08 August 2009 07:34:22 Chani wrote:
> > So, here is what might be the minimum required to represent
> > ActivityContext: - Activity name (given by user)
> > - Activity Type
>
> what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just the
> activity name?
You can have mul
On August 8, 2009 02:32:06 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Saturday 08 August 2009, Hari krishna Anandhan wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > would this types something static or just strings given by the user?
> > > i fear if it's something static, while it's something th
It was Hari krishna Anandhan who said at the right time 08.08.2009 19:05
the following words:
Hi Leo,
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Leo Sauermann wrote:
a completly working implementation with applications on top (such as
clicked-link history, etc, ...) was done open source complete with
o
Hi Leo,
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Leo Sauermann wrote:
> a completly working implementation with applications on top (such as
> clicked-link history, etc, ...) was done open source complete with
> ontologies and algorithms:
>
> http://usercontext.opendfki.de/
> http://lists.opendfki.de/cgi-b
Am Freitag 07 August 2009 21:57:56 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
> > > > Btw, a bit offtopic, but shall we share favourites between those
> > > > menus?
> > >
> > > you're not sharing them? :(
>
> There are both pros and cons for this. Pros are easy to recognize.
>
> The main con (and the reason why Lancelot
A short reminder:
a completly working implementation with applications on top (such as
clicked-link history, etc, ...) was done open source complete with
ontologies and algorithms:
http://usercontext.opendfki.de/
http://lists.opendfki.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usercontext
http://dev.nepomuk
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> Although this would be perfect to have, I'm concerned about the interface to
> it. The users are already confused with activities, what would happen if we
> introduced activity types (as configurable) as well?
I think the main reason casual users
On Saturday 08 August 2009, Hari krishna Anandhan wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> > would this types something static or just strings given by the user?
> > i fear if it's something static, while it's something that has a more
> > clear semantic value could be somethi
> The activity type can have the following options (these need be set
> only while defining a new activity type, not while creating every
> activity!)
> - Activity Type Name (user given string)
> - Show apps (in menu) related to productivity, etc
> - Allow / Disallow / Provide hint about messages
> be in it anyways, the contextChanged signal would have the new context,
> that would contain not only the activity name but also the type..
I'd rather have a typeForActivity(String activityName) than having the
parameter type as a part of the signal. (since type is defined by the activity
na
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Marco Martin wrote:
> would this types something static or just strings given by the user?
> i fear if it's something static, while it's something that has a more clear
> semantic value could be something too rigid that won't be used that much in
> the end?
Till now
Sorry, forgot to CC nepomuk-kde ml ;(
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ivan Čukić wrote:
>> what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just the
>> activity name?
> The type could be used by the /activity switching/ plasmoid - to group the
> activites, or to show only a certa
On Saturday 08 August 2009, Hari krishna Anandhan wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> >> what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just
> >> the activity name?
> >
> > The type could be used by the /activity switching/ plasmoid - to group
> > the ac
On Saturday 08 August 2009, Hari krishna Anandhan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> 2009/8/4 Ivan Čukić :
> > The reason I started this topic now is that we are approaching Tokamak 3
> > (meeting of Plasma developers / hackaton) and I intend to work on d-bus
> > interface and the nepomuk stuff.
>
> Ivan, I woul
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Ivan Čukić wrote:
>> what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just the
>> activity name?
> The type could be used by the /activity switching/ plasmoid - to group the
> activites, or to show only a certain type of activity...
Activity Type c
> what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just the
> activity name?
The type could be used by the /activity switching/ plasmoid - to group the
activites, or to show only a certain type of activity...
(this is the only thing that comes to my mind at the moment :) )
Chee
> Ivan, I would like to clear up something here: I understand that when
> you are saying context, you mean the Activities the user is doing.
If I ever said context, I apologize, naturally I was always referring to
activities. I may have started to use the context term due to the playground
exampl
> So, here is what might be the minimum required to represent
> ActivityContext: - Activity name (given by user)
> - Activity Type
what would you do with an activity type that you couldn't do with just the
activity name?
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Hi all,
2009/8/4 Ivan Čukić :
> The reason I started this topic now is that we are approaching Tokamak 3
> (meeting of Plasma developers / hackaton) and I intend to work on d-bus
> interface and the nepomuk stuff.
Ivan, I would like to clear up something here: I understand that when
you are sayin
> > > Btw, a bit offtopic, but shall we share favourites between those menus?
> > you're not sharing them? :(
There are both pros and cons for this. Pros are easy to recognize.
The main con (and the reason why Lancelot only loads the favs from Kickoff on
first start, but doesn't share them) is t
On Friday 07 August 2009, Lukas Appelhans wrote:
> Hey!
>
> Am Freitag 31 Juli 2009 17:17:32 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
> > A.S. This is a multi-list message, so make sure you reply to both
> > plasma-devel and nepomuk-kde lists.
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As you probably know, plasma has the concept of acti
On Friday 07 August 2009 21:31:52 Chani wrote:
> > > Use-cases:
> > > - When John switches to the work activity, he wants the favourites in
> > > Kickoff/KMenu/Lancelot/Raptor/... to be the applications related to
> > > work.
> >
> > +1 In Raptor we can also use the launch count/database per activ
> >
> > Use-cases:
> > - When John switches to the /work/ activity, he wants the favourites in
> > Kickoff/KMenu/Lancelot/Raptor/... to be the applications related to work.
>
> +1 In Raptor we can also use the launch count/database per activity...
>
> Btw, a bit offtopic, but shall we share favou
Hey!
Am Freitag 31 Juli 2009 17:17:32 schrieb Ivan Čukić:
> A.S. This is a multi-list message, so make sure you reply to both
> plasma-devel and nepomuk-kde lists.
>
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably know, plasma has the concept of activities. This is
> something that is supposed to become global conce
Ho,
this discussion comes up every X months on this list, check out the
following leads:
* the plasma folks wanted to do it in ?january?, check their mail archives
* Hari Krishna Anandhan started discussing about it in August 2008
Scientifically, the NEPOMUK EU project which did all the research
Hi,
> Note though, that the plasma folks have their own thing in their head
> regarding this topic, so maybe I am missing someone important who
Heh, I am one of the Plasma folks. :)
The reason I started this topic now is that we are approaching Tokamak 3
(meeting of Plasma developers / hackaton
On Saturday 01 August 2009 00:25:19 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Friday 31 July 2009, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> > The most basic thing that comes to mind is a nepomuk resource, which the
> > other application listen to using the sopranoStatementAdded() signal in
> > SopranoModel.
> >
> > The other approach
> personally, i prefer the idea of a nice API behind which the real work can
> hide (as the usercontext thing provides). direct access to what's going on
Ok, then I'll go for that.
> another big question is what the ontology to use is. when i last left off
Well, at this point, I don't think it is
On Friday 31 July 2009, Luca Beltrame wrote:
> In data sabato 1 agosto 2009 00:25:19, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:
> > here is a document that Luca Beltrame had started on:
> >
> > http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcp4ww55_76gdhhk6ch
>
> Ahem... Although I have a slight knowledge on certain ontolog
In data sabato 1 agosto 2009 00:25:19, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto:
>
> here is a document that Luca Beltrame had started on:
>
> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcp4ww55_76gdhhk6ch
Ahem... Although I have a slight knowledge on certain ontologies, I don't
think I had the expertise to write suc
On Friday 31 July 2009, Ivan Čukić wrote:
> The most basic thing that comes to mind is a nepomuk resource, which the
> other application listen to using the sopranoStatementAdded() signal in
> SopranoModel.
>
> The other approach (DanielW pointed it out) is something like the nepomuk
> service exam
A.S. This is a multi-list message, so make sure you reply to both plasma-devel
and nepomuk-kde lists.
Hi all,
As you probably know, plasma has the concept of activities. This is something
that is supposed to become global concept, and not only plasma-local.
Use-cases:
- When John switches to
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