On Tuesday, July 08, 2014 18:45:41 John Layt wrote:
> On 7 July 2014 10:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
> >> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work required
> >> by the distros is a must if we want to avoid the mess of
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Martin Graesslin wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 July 2014 18:45:41 John Layt wrote:
> > On 7 July 2014 10:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
> > >> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work requir
On Tuesday 08 July 2014 18:45:41 John Layt wrote:
> On 7 July 2014 10:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
> >> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work required
> >> by the distros is a must if we want to avoid the mess of K
On 07/07/2014 07:16 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
>> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work required
>> by the distros is a must if we want to avoid the mess of KDE4.
>> Already openSUSE has announced that you can't hav
On 7 July 2014 10:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
>> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work required
>> by the distros is a must if we want to avoid the mess of KDE4.
>> Already openSUSE has announced that you can't have
Tars are out
http://download.kde.org/unstable/plasma/4.98.0/src/
Announce is out
http://kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.0-rc.php
No dot story or kde-announce@ e-mail for this one I think, it's a release
candidate and I don't want to take away from Framework's top spot.
Got to run now, sorry
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 06:29:33PM +0200, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>Release candidate tars for Plasma 5 appearing soon at depot.kde.org
>unstable/plasma/4.98.0
>
>Also up at
>http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.98.0/
>
>Please check for sanity and let me know what's brok
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 01:00:00PM +0200, Sebastian K?gler wrote:
> On Monday, July 07, 2014 10:16:44 Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > Your e-mail also highlights a branding issue, now that we are calling
> > the new version of Plasma, Plasma 5 what do we call the old version.
> > I've been calling it P
On Monday, July 07, 2014 10:16:44 Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Your e-mail also highlights a branding issue, now that we are calling
> the new version of Plasma, Plasma 5 what do we call the old version.
> I've been calling it Plasma 1 as that was the version number used and
> it's not a good idea to
Well the point I'm going for that beyond a technical issue - communications
wise it doesn't matter really. As long as whatever you say contains some
indication that its the older version.
As for the technical side of things - I can't comment. But from a
communicative standpoint it really isn't
It's not good to rename stuff which has already been released. When
KDE branding all changed we still used the terms KDE 3 and KDE 4 to
talk about old releases, try to be a revisionist rarely works.
Jonathan
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 11:44:32AM +0200, Jens Reuterberg wrote:
> Someone said "brand
Someone said "branding" so I appeared like a Bloody Mary figure in the mirror.
Why not Plasma 4? Or "Plasma Past"? I mean in all honesty the issue isn't that
big except from a communicative aspect (in which case "Plasma Past", "Former
Plasma" etc are all good) or a technical aspect (in which cas
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work required
> by the distros is a must if we want to avoid the mess of KDE4.
> Already openSUSE has announced that you can't have both installed at
> once, which will force people t
On 07/04/2014 07:19 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 11:13:19AM +0200, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>>A similar case exists for kactivites. It existed in kde4 as well and the
>>current framework has the same name.
>>I would really like the tarballs to have the same name. Al
On 07/04/2014 08:05 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On Friday 04 July 2014 11:13:19 Vishesh Handa wrote:
>> I would really like the tarballs to have the same name. Also, baloo4 and 5
>> are not really co-installable. They both ship executables with the same
>> name.
>
> Are you saying that one can't use
On Friday 04 July 2014 11:13:19 Vishesh Handa wrote:
> I would really like the tarballs to have the same name. Also, baloo4 and 5
> are not really co-installable. They both ship executables with the same
> name.
Are you saying that one can't use a kdepim with baloo support in a plasma
workspace w
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> I would really like the tarballs to have the same name. Also, baloo4 and 5
> are not really co-installable. They both ship executables with the same
> name.
>
Just to clarify. All the libraries and plugins are co-instalable. It's just
the e
In data venerdì 4 luglio 2014 10:35:11, John Layt ha scritto:
Hello John,
> really want is for them to be able to try Plasma 5 out while still
> being able to switch back to 4 if there are things that break their
> workflow.
At least for openSUSE we have this planned. By choosing either the "pla
On 4 July 2014 10:13, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>> I renamed baloo's tar to baloo5 because it contains some libraries
>> which most distros will want to co-install so I'd expect baloo
>> (kdelibs4) and baloo (kf5) to exist in distro archives
On 4 July 2014 10:13, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>> I renamed baloo's tar to baloo5 because it contains some libraries
>> which most distros will want to co-install so I'd expect baloo
>> (kdelibs4) and baloo (kf5) to exist in distro archives
> kactivites, kdnssd, attica and kwallet we have to rename
> in distributions.
The policy for kactivities is that the service is not co-installable, and
the libraries are*. So, the packages can keep the names - kactivities
(service), libkactivities6, libkactivities7 or similar.
Even pondered sepa
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 11:13:19AM +0200, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>A similar case exists for kactivites. It existed in kde4 as well and the
>current framework has the same name.
>I would really like the tarballs to have the same name. Also, baloo4 and 5
>are not really co-installable.
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 12:54:22AM +0200, Vishesh Handa wrote:
> >On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jonathan Riddell
> wrote:
> >
> > d58af08286e9d85ea6afa77831692c02efba9ba8ddebf57fd342854062425d39
> > A kfilemetadata5-4.98
On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 12:54:22AM +0200, Vishesh Handa wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jonathan Riddell
> wrote:
>
> d58af08286e9d85ea6afa77831692c02efba9ba8ddebf57fd342854062425d39
> A kfilemetadata5-4.98.0.tar.xz
> 24f401be4beda474a386bd223390477ece9ab3329183d0f69b
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:05:48PM +0100, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 06:29:33PM +0200, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> >Release candidate tars for Plasma 5 appearing soon at depot.kde.org
> >unstable/plasma/4.98.0
>
> Some updates now up on depot..
Another one to fix brok
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>
> Please check for sanity and let me know what's broken. Announce expected on
> Tuesday.
I've noticed that a number of packages (baloo, milou, kfilemetadata) have
empty doc folders. I'm not sure if it is a problem.
--
Vishesh Handa
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On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>
>
> d58af08286e9d85ea6afa77831692c02efba9ba8ddebf57fd342854062425d39
> kfilemetadata5-4.98.0.tar.xz
> 24f401be4beda474a386bd223390477ece9ab3329183d0f69b06ccb5859ecbba
> baloo5-4.98.0.tar.xz
Why do some tarballs have 5 appended to them
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 06:29:33PM +0200, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>Release candidate tars for Plasma 5 appearing soon at depot.kde.org
>unstable/plasma/4.98.0
Some updates now up on depot..
d58af08286e9d85ea6afa77831692c02efba9ba8ddebf57fd342854062425d39
kfilemetadata5-4.98.0.tar.xz
24f
On Thursday 03 July 2014, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Release candidate tars for Plasma 5 appearing soon at depot.kde.org
> unstable/plasma/4.98.0
>
> Also up at
> http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.98.0/
>
> Please check for sanity and let me know what's broken. Announce expected
> on Tue
Release candidate tars for Plasma 5 appearing soon at depot.kde.org
unstable/plasma/4.98.0
Also up at
http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-4.98.0/
Please check for sanity and let me know what's broken. Announce expected
on Tuesday.
Jonathan
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