Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez
That's nice. when I tried it for the last time, it was requiring double clicks when file navigation was with double clicks... -- Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez lfpg@gmail.com 2010/4/10 Marco Martin : > On Friday 09 April 2010, Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez wrote: >> >> * About the single /

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 April 2010, Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez wrote: > > * About the single / double click: Search and Launch is there > basically replacing the menu. It doesn't makes sense to make it honor for the record, on trunk it's all single click Cheers, Marco Martin __

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Markus
Am Samstag 10 April 2010 02:52:48 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz): > > Compare Apple's early PowerBooks (eg. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Powerbook_duo_2300c.jpg ) to a modern > > netbook: No, not different at all (from a usability standpoint): > > 9" screen for display and keyboard + touc

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On 4/9/10, Markus wrote: > Am Freitag 09 April 2010 23:10:48 schrieb Chani: > > > > while I can see this being handy for something like Qt Designer, it'd be a > > PITA for something like a web browser or okular. > > > Web browsers and Okular are single-window apps by design. Sure, you can show >

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On 4/10/10, Markus wrote: > Am Samstag 10 April 2010 00:12:00 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz): > > > But they still dropped it for the iPhone and even for the iPad ;) > > > Both are touch-based devices and almost everybody who these days develops GUIs > for such devices gets more than only inspira

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Marco Martin
On 4/9/10, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Fri 9 April 2010 2:08:48 pm Marco Martin wrote: > > no multitouch on X for now. > > > Synaptic touchpad driver worked though. I had an old shell script which > implemented similar things using synclient on my eeepc. swipe with two > fingers to change desktop oh,

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-10 Thread Ryan Rix
On Fri 9 April 2010 5:52:48 pm Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > We can drink a beer while discussing this > during akademy :D Yeah, and about how Palm was really the ones who really started the touchscreen UI revolution :D -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://rix.si/ ==

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Friday 09 April 2010, 20:13 Markus wrote: > Both are touch-based devices and almost everybody who these days develops > GUIs for such devices gets more than only inspiration from Apple. Hmm, well this could be turned into a flame war hehe :) Just to be fair, Nokia N770 was in the market since

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Friday 09 April 2010, 20:23 Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez wrote: > In my opinion, ubuntu netbook remix has done the right job: There, > it's pretty easy to access applications and places, and every > application is visible in that "iconized" task manager for background > apps, which is also th

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Markus
Am Samstag 10 April 2010 00:12:00 schrieb Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz): > But they still dropped it for the iPhone and even for the iPad ;) Both are touch-based devices and almost everybody who these days develops GUIs for such devices gets more than only inspiration from Apple. > Desktops and netboo

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Friday 09 April 2010, 18:57 Markus wrote: > Maybe I'm spoiled by my Mac experience, but I can't remember that Mac OS > (X) was ever regarded as geek-only platform. On the contrary: Mac OS X is > usually highly praised for its high usability up to a point where trolls > call it a "girl and gay" p

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Markus
Am Freitag 09 April 2010 23:08:48 schrieb Marco Martin: > well, it's not really easy to identify what windows belong to the same app, > that's one of the reasons the taskbar in plasma-desktop right now lists > windows, and they are grouped by name, that is an heuristic that may or may > not be the

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Ryan Rix
On Fri 9 April 2010 2:08:48 pm Marco Martin wrote: > no multitouch on X for now. Synaptic touchpad driver worked though. I had an old shell script which implemented similar things using synclient on my eeepc. swipe with two fingers to change desktop -- Ryan Rix == http://hackersramblings.wordp

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Markus
Am Freitag 09 April 2010 23:10:48 schrieb Chani: > while I can see this being handy for something like Qt Designer, it'd be a > PITA for something like a web browser or okular. Web browsers and Okular are single-window apps by design. Sure, you can show more than one window at the same time, bu

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 April 2010, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote: > The clock point is a valid one that we must deal, but the task manager > solution you're proposing just doesn't solve the main issue. That's why we > are using Exposè for showing your tasks. Where "your" I mean the average > user and not some

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 April 2010, Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez wrote: > I had commented on the original blog archive, and I'll continue discussion > here. > > Well, maybe I'm an exception, but I don't follow the "netbook users > run a single application at a time". For instance, many times I have > fire

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz)
On Friday 09 April 2010, 17:57 Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez wrote: > Well, maybe I'm an exception, but I don't follow the "netbook users > run a single application at a time". For instance, many times I have > firefox, dolphin, konsole, amarok, gimp (yes, gimp, with a wacom > tablet attached) ru

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Chani
> > > > The window’s actions on the right are already implemented as a plasmoid > > and there is no need to show the minimize button: if you want to switch > > between applications you just do it, if you want to go to an activity > > you just use the panel for that and if you want to close, the b

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 April 2010, Markus wrote: > Written by MoRpHeUz — April 9, 2010 @ 19:01: > > Hi! Regarding some points: > > > > – Exposè vs List of Windows > > > > A) Most (if not all) netbooks today have a graphics card capable of doing > > composite. > > Graphic cards: Yes. Drivers: Not often. >

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez
I had commented on the original blog archive, and I'll continue discussion here. Well, maybe I'm an exception, but I don't follow the "netbook users run a single application at a time". For instance, many times I have firefox, dolphin, konsole, amarok, gimp (yes, gimp, with a wacom tablet attached

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 April 2010, Markus wrote: > Thanks for your comments. I'd like to further share my reasons for the > decisions. > > Am Freitag 09 April 2010 19:59:28 schrieb Marco Martin: > > i think however the exposè effect has more informational value > > As someone who used Mac OS X for years, I

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Markus
Written by MoRpHeUz — April 9, 2010 @ 19:01: > Hi! Regarding some points: > > – Exposè vs List of Windows > > A) Most (if not all) netbooks today have a graphics card capable of doing > composite. Graphic cards: Yes. Drivers: Not often. There were several announcements of ARM-based netbooks. Is

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Markus
Thanks for your comments. I'd like to further share my reasons for the decisions. Am Freitag 09 April 2010 19:59:28 schrieb Marco Martin: > i think however the exposè effect has more informational value As someone who used Mac OS X for years, I know Exposé inside out. I also know that when I wa

Re: Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 April 2010, Markus wrote: > Dear readers. > I had some ideas how to possibly improve Plasma's netbook interface. ideas are always welcome :) > (I published this set of suggestions also in my blog. Maybe it's easier to > read there: > http://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/plasma-n

Plasma-Netbook Mockups

2010-04-09 Thread Markus
Dear readers. I had some ideas how to possibly improve Plasma's netbook interface. (I published this set of suggestions also in my blog. Maybe it's easier to read there: http://kamikazow.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/plasma-netbook-mockup/ ) While my task within KDE is mainly to translate K3b, I see