Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-14 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Friday 14 November 2008 19:28:36, Aaron J. Seigo escreveu: > On Friday 14 November 2008, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > > Daniel Molkentin posted about text alongside the icons [1]. > > > > He thinks that this is a mistake using Kopete as example. Being able to > > kopete is a bad example. it simpy shou

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-14 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday 14 November 2008, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > Daniel Molkentin posted about text alongside the icons [1]. > > He thinks that this is a mistake using Kopete as example. Being able to kopete is a bad example. it simpy shouldn't be using text with its icons in that window at all. konqueror is

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-14 Thread JJ
Oops! Just noticed what happened. Cross posting at the thread begining and not followed as the thread growed ... That proposal was sent to kde-usability only. Well, now you guys have it (and I'm cross posting it again to kde-usability so they can answer too). ;-) It's good to remind it's a mockup

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-14 Thread JJ
Oops! Just noticed what happened. Cross posting at the thread begining and not followed as the thread growed ... That proposal was sent to kde-usability only. Well, now you guys have it (and I'm cross posting it again to kde-usability so they can answer too). ;-) It's good to remind it's a mockup

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-14 Thread JJ
Well, I (and possibly everyone here too) think user should miss as little information as possible. For that, I guess this "hide few labels 'till fit" option is good. But, alongside it, we had a default layout proposal that would help that to happen a little less (that is, if this layout doesn't ge

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-14 Thread Matthias Fuchs
For those that do not regularly read planetkde.org: Daniel Molkentin posted about text alongside the icons [1]. He thinks that this is a mistake using Kopete as example. Being able to activate the text per item is what he prefers (a code example there). There are also some proposals in the comme

Re: [Kde-accessibility] KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
> Florian: > > Right now, if there is not enough space, the application hides all > icons starting with the rightmost one. With my proposal, the > application hides the text of the icons, starting with the > rightmost one. Only if that is not enough will it start to hide the > icons themselves. I

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday 13 November 2008 21:54:38 Toussis Manolis wrote: > All in all , i think the problem could just solved if there was a strict > comment to the translators, on the toolbar messages, that they should keep > the size of the translation as small as possible... I think that's already the case

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Toussis Manolis
All in all , i think the problem could just solved if there was a strict comment to the translators, on the toolbar messages, that they should keep the size of the translation as small as possible... With small one-word text, the text along icon would be fine... With current situation in the orig

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Florian
Am Donnerstag 13 November 2008 21:08:00 schrieb Maciej Pilichowski: > > Florian: > > > > Am Mittwoch 12 November 2008 19:11:53 schrieb Maciej Pilichowski: > > > > Nuno Pinheiro: > > > > 2 Saves precious vertical space. > > > > > > and waste (even more precious ;-) ) horizontal space. > > > > Is it

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
> Florian: > Am Mittwoch 12 November 2008 19:11:53 schrieb Maciej Pilichowski: > > > Nuno Pinheiro: > > > 2 Saves precious vertical space. > > > > and waste (even more precious ;-) ) horizontal space. > > Is it possible to enable the text for each icon individually? If > this is possible one could

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Florian
Am Mittwoch 12 November 2008 19:11:53 schrieb Maciej Pilichowski: > > Nuno Pinheiro: > > 2 Saves precious vertical space. > > and waste (even more precious ;-) ) horizontal space. Is it possible to enable the text for each icon individually? If this is possible one could iterate over all icons fr

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Thursday 13 November 2008 05:05:56, Sebastian Kügler escreveu: > On Thursday 13 November 2008 00:26:18 Matthias Fuchs wrote: > > Sebastian Kügler schrieb: > > > In 4.0, we switched on text under icons, and were afraid first that not > > > too long labels might become a problem. At least for the E

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday 13 November 2008 00:26:18 Matthias Fuchs wrote: > Sebastian Kügler schrieb: > > In 4.0, we switched on text under icons, and were afraid first that not > > too long labels might become a problem. At least for the English version, > > that's not a problem (anymore). Most apps actually se

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Wednesday 12 November 2008 23:18:18, Matthias Fuchs escreveu: > Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > > A Wednesday 12 November 2008 21:48:29, Matthias Fuchs escreveu: > >> Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > >>> Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the > >>> thoolbars text along side icons i

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Sebastian Kügler schrieb: > In 4.0, we switched on text under icons, and were afraid first that not too > long labels might become a problem. At least for the English version, that's > not a problem (anymore). Most apps actually seem to have some space left in > the toolbars. I guess you have s

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > A Wednesday 12 November 2008 21:48:29, Matthias Fuchs escreveu: >> Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: >>> Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the >>> thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: >>> [...] >>> 2 Saves precious vertical

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Sascha Peilicke wrote: > On Thursday 13 November 2008 00:16:07 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > What is This: another wtf. this so does not belong in the toolbar. > > > > that would leave us with: > > > > Add News Source > > Check for Updates > > > > i assume that even in ge

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Sascha Peilicke
On Thursday 13 November 2008 00:16:07 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > > Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > > > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the > > > thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: > > > [.

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday 12 November 2008 18:31:51 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the > thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: > 1 Looks Pretier. > 2 Saves precious vertical space. > 3 Remains a prety big hit area. > 4 Its mo

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Wednesday 12 November 2008 21:48:29, Matthias Fuchs escreveu: > Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the > > thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: > > [...] > > 2 Saves precious vertical space. > > That is true,

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the > > thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: > > [...] > > 2 Saves precious vertical space. > > That is true, but keep in

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Maciej Pilichowski wrote: > > Nuno Pinheiro: > > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in > > the thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. > > Couse: > > 1 Looks Pretier. > > which is quite personal taste. as is everything

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Matthias Fuchs
Nuno Pinheiro schrieb: > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the > thoolbars > text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: > [...] > 2 Saves precious vertical space. That is true, but keep in mind that if you do not run your apps in fullscreen horizon

Re: KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Maciej Pilichowski
> Nuno Pinheiro: > Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in > the thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. > Couse: > 1 Looks Pretier. which is quite personal taste. > 2 Saves precious vertical space. and waste (even more precious ;-) ) horizontal spac

KDE 4.2 Toolbars

2008-11-12 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
Well some time ago I sudgested to Celeste that we should use in the thoolbars text along side icons instead of text under icons. Couse: 1 Looks Pretier. 2 Saves precious vertical space. 3 Remains a prety big hit area. 4 Its more readable (no need to read rows horozontaly) just one line 5 Its vi