Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-30 Thread Marco Martin
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > If you're looking also for input on the HIG compliance, screenshots are > helpful :) sorry it taken a long time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfhcWRHCEtA (ignore the fixed scrollbars, that's because is on a laptop, and the white rect

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-23 Thread Marco Martin
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Sorry for replying only now. > The actions are always supposed to be for the most narrow context available. > So if individual items are selected in a list or on a page, then the context > actions change to those for those specific items. >

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Friday 16 October 2015 10:38:55 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2015 18:18:24 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Another thing about the context drawer: > > Would it be possible to center the list of actions vertically so that it's > > easier to reach with the thumb (at least if it has only

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 15 October 2015 11:00:28 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > ok, so a version is here, it's just few components but want to keep it > > minimal https://phabricator.kde.org/D409 > > I invite people to get a look at it and review. > Phabricator

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 08 October 2015 18:18:24 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Another thing about the context drawer: > Would it be possible to center the list of actions vertically so that it's > easier to reach with the thumb (at least if it has only a few actions)? Another question about the context view: do y

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-15 Thread Marco Martin
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > ok, so a version is here, it's just few components but want to keep it minimal > https://phabricator.kde.org/D409 I invite people to get a look at it and review. Phabricator reviews are useful only if somebody well, reviews. -- Marco Martin

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-14 Thread Marco Martin
ok, so a version is here, it's just few components but want to keep it minimal https://phabricator.kde.org/D409 ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 October 2015, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > We've been talking to Michael Spencer, one of the main driving forces > behind those components, about how we can collaborate (he seems quite > positive about the idea!). > If you see any areas where direct collaboration could make sense, speak up

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Friday 09 October 2015 18:00:18 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2015, Aleix Pol wrote: > > > * could some content for the global drawer be there by default? do we > > > leave a blank slate? even the hig examples are very heterogeneous > > > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usabilit

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Monday 12 October 2015 11:33:07 Marco Martin wrote: > That's another reason why I think our higs and components shouldn't be that > different from something that could work on Android, because either > developers will use them for one app port that will work on both plasma > mobile and android,

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 07 October 2015, Alex L. wrote: > In data mercoledì 7 ottobre 2015 14:53:32, Marco Martin ha scritto: > > which looks like this, i kindof like > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHHWG_Qm2ks > > If I understand well, technically the toolbar like that it's OK but > "floating buttons" n

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-12 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 09 October 2015, Aleix Pol wrote: > > One thing I really like about the Material ones is that even if they > provide a Button.qml component, they also provide the style for it and > base their button on the one in QtQuick.Controls. This way, one can > have code using QtQuick.Controls and

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-12 Thread Alex L.
In data mercoledì 7 ottobre 2015 14:53:32, Marco Martin ha scritto: > which looks like this, i kindof like > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHHWG_Qm2ks If I understand well, technically the toolbar like that it's OK but "floating buttons" not. To be sure we have the same concept of "floating but

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-09 Thread Aleix Pol
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2015, Aleix Pol wrote: >> > Possible problems: >> > * the two panels may be always instantiated, even if empty this may be >> > not optimal memory and loading time wise >> > * toolbar api still no defined >> > * could som

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 08 October 2015, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Possible problems: > > * the two panels may be always instantiated, even if empty this may be > > not optimal memory and loading time wise > > * toolbar api still no defined > > * could some content for the global drawer be there by default? do we >

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 08 October 2015, Aleix Pol wrote: > > * could some content for the global drawer be there by default? do we > > leave a blank slate? even the hig examples are very heterogeneous > > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/GlobalDrawer > > Maybe you'd like to take a look at the

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > Wall of text ahead, but please, don't just "mark as read" :p > I want to have a proper discussion on components for the API of mobile > components since via email looks a bit messy, maybe an etherpad document may > be created that m

AW: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
ListView's preferredHighlightBegin should do the trick. Gesendet von meinem BlackBerry 10-Smartphone.   Originalnachricht   Von: Thomas Pfeiffer Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2015 18:18 An: plasma-devel@kde.org Antwort an: plasma-devel@kde.org Betreff: Re: HIG and components API Another

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Another thing about the context drawer: Would it be possible to center the list of actions vertically so that it's easier to reach with the thumb (at least if it has only a few actions)? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kd

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 08 October 2015 14:51:35 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 08 October 2015, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > I'll try to do an experiment of full toolbar sliding in ond out, may be > > > good, may look weird > > > > I admit I can't really picture what you mean, but I'll see the results ;)

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 07 October 2015 10:40:46 Marco Martin wrote: > > > Moreover, I'm feeling that the api and the usage of the components will > > > be quite intertwined with what will be the hig in the end. > > > > What exactly do you mean by that? > > that is very important that things are defined and

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 08 October 2015, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > > I'll try to do an experiment of full toolbar sliding in ond out, may be > > good, may look weird > > I admit I can't really picture what you mean, but I'll see the results ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHHWG_Qm2ks (blackberry does

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 07 October 2015 11:24:36 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 07 October 2015, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > You are right. Our original idea was to take our ideas to the > > kde-guidelines mailing list before publishing them, but > > a) I admittedly forgot > > b) Maybe plasma-devel is bett

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Marco Martin wrote: >> Since the floating buttons are more of a gimmick than something that is >> actually relevant for the interaction, we're not hell-bent on them. >> The idea for them came from the big red round button in recent Android >> applications for the

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 07 October 2015, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > You are right. Our original idea was to take our ideas to the > kde-guidelines mailing list before publishing them, but > a) I admittedly forgot > b) Maybe plasma-devel is better to reach all stakeholders (or maybe cross- > posting to both list

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 07 October 2015, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Yes, components are crucial both for consistency and for the adoption of > the HIG. A HIG is supposed to make people's lives easier, not harder, and > components that "automatically" comply with the HIG are an integral part > of that. > > > Mo

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Tuesday 06 October 2015 17:09:25 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 06 October 2015, Alex wrote: > > > * could some content for the global drawer be there by default? do we > > > leave a blank slate? even the hig examples are very heterogeneous > > > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Marco, first of all: Thank you for starting this discussion. I know we should have done that already, and I promise we'll make more use of the mailing list from now on. I will not go into too much detail about the reasoning/basic assumptions behind our decisions, as that will be covered in a

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 06 October 2015, Alex wrote: > > * could some content for the global drawer be there by default? do we > > leave a blank slate? even the hig examples are very heterogeneous > > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/GlobalDrawer > > Hi, > thanks for you work. I discuss about th

Re: HIG and components API

2015-10-06 Thread Alex
In data lunedì 5 ottobre 2015 16:50:40, Marco Martin ha scritto: > UI wise, things that i'm still not sure/not completely agree are: > * side panels: i have as well one slightly semantically different kind of > panel in which you slide out the app content to uncover the panel content > instead (lik

HIG and components API

2015-10-05 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, Wall of text ahead, but please, don't just "mark as read" :p I want to have a proper discussion on components for the API of mobile components since via email looks a bit messy, maybe an etherpad document may be created that may make things a bit easier with some formatting goodness som