Re: Button component width

2012-10-04 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le jeudi 4 octobre 2012 13:06:15 Marco Martin a écrit : > > Command Buttons in Windows: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa511453.aspx#gene > > r > > al > > > > OS X, no explicit mention of size but look at the button screenshots in > > the > > "Push Button" section: >

Re: Button component width

2012-10-04 Thread Mark
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark wrote: > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: >> On Wednesday, October 03, 2012 22:44:20 Mark wrote: >>> You really seem to be thinking in plasma active. And in there it might >>> actually work and benefit in every possible way. On the des

Re: Button component width

2012-10-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 04 October 2012, Mark wrote: > > Maybe you could be more specific, as this it sounds just like a > > frustrated rant? (Which is understandable, but doesn't help improving > > anything for you in the future.) Maybe those changes are easy to make, > > maybe your use case hasn't been consi

Re: Button component width

2012-10-04 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 04 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > lately on what other UI guidelines recommend. Interestingly, both Windows > and OS X guidelines recommend a default width, Windows guidelines going as > far as saying if a button's width is less than the default width, it will > look "unprofess

Re: Button component width

2012-10-04 Thread Mark
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, October 03, 2012 22:44:20 Mark wrote: >> You really seem to be thinking in plasma active. And in there it might >> actually work and benefit in every possible way. On the desktop things >> like this just don't work. Devs want

Re: Button component width

2012-10-04 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 22:44:20 Mark a écrit : > Also, setting a minimal size in characters.. Is there any other > toolkit out there that's doing that? I personally think setting a size in characters makes more sense than setting it in pixels when the toolkit is expected to cover a wide rang

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, October 03, 2012 22:44:20 Mark wrote: > You really seem to be thinking in plasma active. And in there it might > actually work and benefit in every possible way. On the desktop things > like this just don't work. Devs want to have freedom and certainly > don't want to be limited. One

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Mark
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Marco Martin >> > ___ >> > Plasma-devel mailing list >> > Plasma-devel@kde.org >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-d

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 16:54:53 Marco Martin a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:35:22 Marco Martin a écrit : > > > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > > > it's a reasonable size espressed in characters (policy i unfort

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:35:22 Marco Martin a écrit : > > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > > it's a reasonable size espressed in characters (policy i unfortunately > > still didn't make clear enough there is that pixel size

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 16:25:45 Marco Martin a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > > > Cheers, > > > Marco Martin > > > ___ > > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le mercredi 3 octobre 2012 14:35:22 Marco Martin a écrit : > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > it's a reasonable size espressed in characters (policy i unfortunately still > didn't make clear enough there is that pixel sizes should be avoided as > much as possible). > ideally, width

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > > > > Cheers, > > Marco Martin > > ___ > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > Well, this means that a button can't be <132px with

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wednesday 03 October 2012 14:35:22 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi Plasma! > > I've been trying to figure out why buttons had a weirdly big size by > > default, forcing me to set a random width that will be rarely appropriate > > when translating. > >

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Daker Fernandes Pinheiro
2012/10/3 Marco Martin > On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > > Hi Plasma! > > I've been trying to figure out why buttons had a weirdly big size by > > default, forcing me to set a random width that will be rarely appropriate > > when translating. > > > > I decided to look into the co

Re: Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 October 2012, Aleix Pol wrote: > Hi Plasma! > I've been trying to figure out why buttons had a weirdly big size by > default, forcing me to set a random width that will be rarely appropriate > when translating. > > I decided to look into the code and that's what I found [1]. There

Button component width

2012-10-03 Thread Aleix Pol
Hi Plasma! I've been trying to figure out why buttons had a weirdly big size by default, forcing me to set a random width that will be rarely appropriate when translating. I decided to look into the code and that's what I found [1]. There I can see that we are getting the max between the size w