Re: kwin thumbnail effect in Workspaces 2

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
I have thought about it a little bit more. What you actually want is having the UI completely in one place. You don't want to have the thumbnails, you want to be able to render/implement the UI in a way as if you have the thumbnails. Passing the thumbnails from KWin to Plasma is one possible way

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 6:58 p.m., Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > This patch brings a big improvement on the contrast, works better even than > > I expected. :) > > > > On KDE/4.10 I'm getting the following build error: > > > > /home/sebas/kdesvn/src/kde-workspace/kwin/tabbox/../workspace.h: In > >

[KDE Bugtracking System] REMINDER: current Plasma regressions

2013-01-16 Thread bugzilla_noreply
Please find below a list of the current regressions reported for Plasma. This is a weekly reminder. This search was scheduled by myr...@kde.org. Plasma regressions -- Bug 202336: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202336 Priority: NOR Severity: normal Platform: Gentoo

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 5:58 p.m., Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > This patch brings a big improvement on the contrast, works better even than > > I expected. :) > > > > On KDE/4.10 I'm getting the following build error: > > > > /home/sebas/kdesvn/src/kde-workspace/kwin/tabbox/../workspace.h: In > >

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 5:58 p.m., Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > This patch brings a big improvement on the contrast, works better even than > > I expected. :) > > > > On KDE/4.10 I'm getting the following build error: > > > > /home/sebas/kdesvn/src/kde-workspace/kwin/tabbox/../workspace.h: In > >

Re: Review Request 108375: fix bug 311116 / screenlocker hiding

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 9:10 p.m., Oliver Henshaw wrote: > > ksmserver/screenlocker/greeter/greeterapp.cpp, line 131 > > > > > > It seems the DESIGN document is still correct and lockwindow.cpp should > > be hiding t

Re: Plans and status Frameworks5, Plasma2, Qt5 and Wayland

2013-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hi all, > > I've compiled a document that contains our technical direction and its > status. This hopefully gives us a common understanding of where we're > going and where we are right now. > > Feedback is of course welcome. :) thanks for

Re: Review Request 108375: fix bug 311116 / screenlocker hiding

2013-01-16 Thread Oliver Henshaw
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108375/#review25695 --- ksmserver/screenlocker/greeter/greeterapp.cpp

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 5:58 p.m., Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > This patch brings a big improvement on the contrast, works better even than > > I expected. :) > > > > On KDE/4.10 I'm getting the following build error: > > > > /home/sebas/kdesvn/src/kde-workspace/kwin/tabbox/../workspace.h: In > >

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 6:58 p.m., Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > This patch brings a big improvement on the contrast, works better even than > > I expected. :) > > > > On KDE/4.10 I'm getting the following build error: > > > > /home/sebas/kdesvn/src/kde-workspace/kwin/tabbox/../workspace.h: In > >

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Simon Edwards
On 01/16/2013 02:44 PM, Marco Martin wrote: On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Sebastian Kügler wrote: So you'd write a set of QObject deriven classes in Python (you can use various existing third party libraries for that, if you wish so), but they don't have any UI in them, they just offer non-visua

Re: Review Request 108417: screenlocker make [escape] "conditionally" turn off the screen

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 4:07 p.m., Oliver Henshaw wrote: > > I'm not sure about this. I do think that control of when to trigger e.g. > > dpms and dimming should shift from powerdevil to screenlocker (leaving the > > mechanism in powerdevil) but this seems a strange place to start. > > > > If this

Re: Review Request 108417: screenlocker make [escape] "conditionally" turn off the screen

2013-01-16 Thread Oliver Henshaw
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 4:07 p.m., Oliver Henshaw wrote: > > I'm not sure about this. I do think that control of when to trigger e.g. > > dpms and dimming should shift from powerdevil to screenlocker (leaving the > > mechanism in powerdevil) but this seems a strange place to start. > > > > If this

Re: Review Request 108417: screenlocker make [escape] "conditionally" turn off the screen

2013-01-16 Thread Oliver Henshaw
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 4:07 p.m., Oliver Henshaw wrote: > > I'm not sure about this. I do think that control of when to trigger e.g. > > dpms and dimming should shift from powerdevil to screenlocker (leaving the > > mechanism in powerdevil) but this seems a strange place to start. > > > > If this

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108438/#review25679 --- This patch brings a big improvement on the contrast, works bett

Re: Plasmoid object class for QML...

2013-01-16 Thread Michail Vourlakos
That's very interesting news beacuse the transmission for my plasmoid is going to be easy when these apis are released . I would like to discuss a bit more about: 2) Showing widgets for specific activity. hm... this is a bit problematic, as exposing this allows applets to see what else the user

Plans and status Frameworks5, Plasma2, Qt5 and Wayland

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
Hi all, I've compiled a document that contains our technical direction and its status. This hopefully gives us a common understanding of where we're going and where we are right now. Feedback is of course welcome. :) Cheers, -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 911

Re: Review Request 108417: screenlocker make [escape] "conditionally" turn off the screen

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
> On Jan. 16, 2013, 4:07 p.m., Oliver Henshaw wrote: > > I'm not sure about this. I do think that control of when to trigger e.g. > > dpms and dimming should shift from powerdevil to screenlocker (leaving the > > mechanism in powerdevil) but this seems a strange place to start. > > > > If this

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108438/#review25666 --- No problem for the effects, but insufficient for the tabbox bec

Review Request 108441: prevent false positive mouse deactivation of screensaver

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Lübking
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108441/ --- Review request for Plasma, Marco Martin and Oliver Henshaw. Description --

Re: Review Request 108417: screenlocker make [escape] "conditionally" turn off the screen

2013-01-16 Thread Oliver Henshaw
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108417/#review25663 --- I'm not sure about this. I do think that control of when to tri

Re: Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108438/#review25662 --- the patch seems to create some regressions, because I changed t

Re: kwin thumbnail effect in Workspaces 2

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 15:22:10 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 January 2013 14:12:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 13:11:35 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > On Wednesday 16 January 2013 12:13:39 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > * providing the thumbnail s

Re: Re: KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 09:41:08 Weng Xuetian wrote: > On Wednesday 16 January 2013 11:08:57,Martin Gräßlin : > > 0:14 Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > > at least for 4.10 you can maybe force translucent to dialogs. > > > > > there is only o

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 14:52:41 Luca Beltrame wrote: > In data mercoledì 16 gennaio 2013 14:44:24, Marco Martin ha scritto: > > slots defined in those python classes would not visible from qml, due to > > how it internally works (they are not in the static metadata object that > > can't be

Re: KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Weng Xuetian
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 11:08:57,Martin Gräßlin : > 0:14 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > at least for 4.10 you can maybe force translucent to dialogs. > > > > there is only one version of widgets/background, so should be always > > > > ok-ish

Re: Review Request 108308: use _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN to check if the window is minimized instead of WM_STATE == ICONIC when possible.

2013-01-16 Thread Yichao Yu
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108308/ --- (Updated Jan. 16, 2013, 2:37 p.m.) Review request for kdelibs, kwin, Plasm

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 15:29:08 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 14:38:28 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > So you'd write a set of QObject deriven classes in Python (you can use > > > > .. > > > > > These python

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 15:29:08 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 14:38:28 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > So you'd write a set of QObject deriven classes in Python (you can use > > .. > > > These python extensions would then be imported into the context of the > > (QML)

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 14:38:28 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > So you'd write a set of QObject deriven classes in Python (you can use .. > These python extensions would then be imported into the context of the (QML) this should be done via qml imports or libplasma plugins. is there any case whe

Re: Re: kwin thumbnail effect in Workspaces 2

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 14:12:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 13:11:35 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 January 2013 12:13:39 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > there have been more reasons to do it that way. One is that only KWin has > > information to the most recen

Review Request 108438: Use translucent/dialogs/background elements where possible

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/108438/ --- Review request for kwin, Plasma, Sebastian Kügler, and Xuetian Weng. Descr

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Luca Beltrame
In data mercoledì 16 gennaio 2013 14:44:24, Marco Martin ha scritto: > slots defined in those python classes would not visible from qml, due to how > it internally works (they are not in the static metadata object that can't > be touched at runtime, at least not outside of Qt) You are correct (se

Re: Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:41:05 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > the possibility exists for us to support Applets which are written in > > python but which use QML for the user visible parts. you'd still need to > > write and ship QML, but m

Plasma & Python in KF5; was Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:41:05 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > the possibility exists for us to support Applets which are written in > python but which use QML for the user visible parts. you'd still need to > write and ship QML, but maybe you could do some behind-the-scenes parts in > python. th

Re: Plasmoid object class for QML...

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:52:01 Marco Martin wrote: > maybe even in the activity dataengine? this depends on the security model we place around DataEngines and the like in PW2. the activity thumbnails and other shell-specific info is something that we do not need nor want random bits ge

Re: kwin thumbnail effect in Workspaces 2

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 13:11:35 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 January 2013 12:13:39 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > there have been more reasons to do it that way. One is that only KWin has > information to the most recently used windows. you mean that it is the only process that current

Re: Review Request 108223: use Plasma::Dialog for kmix osd

2013-01-16 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 19:43:32 Christian Esken wrote: > I did not expect that this patched would be pushed into KDE4.10, as we are > past release candidate 2 already. Is this really well tested, especially > with theme changes, font changes and so on? My emails say, that it's only gone into

Re: kwin thumbnail effect in Workspaces 2

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 12:13:39 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > hi all ... > > currently, whenever there is a window thumbnail on screen, kwin paints it. > on plasma desktop, this is currently not a big problem for our default > setup since we only use them in tooltips on window listing plasmoids. >

Re: Plasmoid object class for QML...

2013-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 18:43:18 Michail Vourlakos wrote: > > 1) Find the single image wallpaper for every activity. (For all the > > we have a solution for this in Plasma Active: a DataEngine built into the > shell called org.kde.mobileac

kwin thumbnail effect in Workspaces 2

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
hi all ... currently, whenever there is a window thumbnail on screen, kwin paints it. on plasma desktop, this is currently not a big problem for our default setup since we only use them in tooltips on window listing plasmoids. in Active, it has been and continues to be more problematic. this is

Re: Plasmoid object class for QML...

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 18:43:18 Michail Vourlakos wrote: > 1) Find the single image wallpaper for every activity. (For all the we have a solution for this in Plasma Active: a DataEngine built into the shell called org.kde.mobileactivitythumbnails. this is rather better because then we don'

Re: Having an issue with the minimum size of Plasma.WebView

2013-01-16 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 13:47:32 Paulo Nogueira wrote: > So the python support will be there, and if I don't want to write QML > UI. Would it be possible to still writing the UI using python ? this is a bit like asking "If I don't want to use QGraphicsView, can I still write the UI using pyt

Re: Re: KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 11:00:14 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > at least for 4.10 you can maybe force translucent to dialogs. > > > there is only one version of widgets/background, so should be always > > > ok-ish (can never be used as a main fr

Re: KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > at least for 4.10 you can maybe force translucent to dialogs. > > there is only one version of widgets/background, so should be always > > ok-ish (can never be used as a main frame of a window tough since > > doesn't have an opaque version) >

Re: Re: KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013 10:28:30 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > * EffectFrames render a "widgets/background" > > * PresentWindows and DesktopGrid render a "dialogs/background" > > * TabBox uses PlasmaCore.FrameSvgItem with "dialogs/background" > >

Re: KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 16 January 2013, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > * EffectFrames render a "widgets/background" > * PresentWindows and DesktopGrid render a "dialogs/background" > * TabBox uses PlasmaCore.FrameSvgItem with "dialogs/background" > * DesktopChangeOSD uses PlasmaCore.Dialog, so implicitly > "dialogs

KWin and FrameSvg

2013-01-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, I am currently investigating a regression in KWin: some Plasma styled elements always get the opaque element set. KWin is using FrameSvgs in the following areas: * "EffectFrames" - e.g. overlay in fullscreen effects like Cube * PresentWindows for close window button * DesktopGrid for add/