plasmate 0.1-alpha2

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
hi everyone.. i just rolled a new release of plasmate, you can find it here: http://plasma.kde.org/plasmate/plasmate-0.1alpha2.tar.bz2 enjoy :) -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > there's also a penalty for keeping the cache in sync across multiple > > clients. > > > > the other concern is memory usage due to having that cache around ... > > The cache is in the kded service - so no need to sync anything. Or I > misunderstood you? So

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > sorry, i wasn't clear enough. i meant where in kdelibs :) > : > :) I have no idea :) > : > > i'd recommend workspace/libs/kworkspace/. runtime isn't for libs :) > > Ok :) > > > runtime isn't for libs; and i think it does make sense next to Consumer. > > pe

Re: JS API questions

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 9, 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On March 9, 2010, J Janz wrote: > > 2010/3/9 Aaron J. Seigo > > > > > however, there are a number of QScript/C++ > > > issues that block this from actually happening. i have a couple of > > > ideas on how to address this, and will investigate and do one o

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
> there's also a penalty for keeping the cache in sync across multiple > clients. > > the other concern is memory usage due to having that cache around ... The cache is in the kded service - so no need to sync anything. Or I misunderstood you? So the memory overhead is not big at all. > i'd rea

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
> sorry, i wasn't clear enough. i meant where in kdelibs :) :) I have no idea :) > i'd recommend workspace/libs/kworkspace/. runtime isn't for libs :) Ok :) > runtime isn't for libs; and i think it does make sense next to Consumer. > perhaps they could both go into kdelibs/nepomuk? would have t

Re: Review Request: Quicklaunch applet: Change icon order

2010-03-10 Thread Ingomar Wesp
> On 2010-03-10 22:42:51, Lukas Appelhans wrote: > > /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/generic/applets/quicklaunch/quicklaunchApplet.cpp, > > line 296 > > > > > > again no need for QGraphicsGridLayout:: :) Argh. You'r

Re: Review Request: Quicklaunch applet: Change icon order

2010-03-10 Thread Lukas Appelhans
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3254/#review4461 --- Looks quite fine to me :) Just minor issues... /trunk/KDE/kdebase/wo

Review Request: Quicklaunch applet: Change icon order

2010-03-10 Thread Ingomar Wesp
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3254/ --- Review request for Plasma. Summary --- Since there were no objections on pl

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Davide Bettio
> On 2010-03-10 19:44:48, Lubos Lunak wrote: > > Looks ok to me. > > > > One small nitpick: Please do not do > > Foo* foo = new Foo; > > foo->doSomething(); > > delete foo; > > > > The object can be normally allocated on the stack without risking a leak or > > requiring the extra work of dynam

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Lubos Lunak
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3240/#review4458 --- Ship it! Looks ok to me. One small nitpick: Please do not do Foo* fo

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Lubos Lunak
On Wednesday 10 of March 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday 10 March 2010 13:22:04 Davide Bettio wrote: > > > On 2010-03-10 07:28:38, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > Why do we still need prevent screen locking? It seems to do nothing, > > > > so I would say it can be removed completely. > >

Re: Building Containment with Python

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, LordBlueLight wrote: > But can't find any helpfull documentation how to build a containment with > Python. Is it even possible? good question; if it is, then the way to do this is to put this in your .desktop file: ServiceTypes=Plasma/Containment -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othr

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Marco Martin wrote: > or, plasmaoidviewer -c yourcontainment, then drop some applets in it and > resize as you please ;) not the best fit for this imho. here's why: * no Add Widgets interface (which could be added to a test app with a dozen or so lines of code; see how it is d

Re: Reasons for BUG: 230157

2010-03-10 Thread Shantanu Tushar Jha
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On March 9, 2010, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: >> Hello, >>     This morning I was trying to find out what is the reason bug >> 230157 is happening. After hunting down the devicenotifier and coming > > seems this was fixed by a commit from ma

Re: Reasons for BUG: 230157

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 9, 2010, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > Hello, > This morning I was trying to find out what is the reason bug > 230157 is happening. After hunting down the devicenotifier and coming seems this was fixed by a commit from marco just now? -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fing

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > This is a non-feature IMO as it's hardly discoverable and can easily result > a screen not getting locked because the user left the mouse in the wrong > position, leading to security risks. a) people do use this (i even worked on improvements to the fea

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > hmm. am i reading this correctly that this kded service is only needed if > > nepomuk is not there, and that it serves as a cache-in-the-middle between > > nepomuk and the applications? this seems like a lot of overhead just to > > this was one of the kwin

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, todd rme wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> If someone did this, would you accept the patch? I described a > > > > sure; i'd recommend doing it as a proof-of-concept first in a new > > Containment plugin, so that it isn't bumping int

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, todd rme wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> If someone did this, would you accept the patch? I described a > > > > sure; i'd recommend doing it as a proof-of-concept first in a new > > Containment plugin, so that it isn't bumping into existin

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > do you have any thoughts currently on where the classes in these libs > > should end up, or do we need to start looking for homes for them? > > We talked about it - Consumer would be best suited in kdelibs (maybe base sorry, i wasn't clear enough. i meant

Re: Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:35 PM, wrote: > Just to give a bit of perspective -- I have seen this type of behavior on > other platforms before. It's been around for several years so it's not > completely out of the blue. > > Of course, I can't remember the specifics. It seems to me that it may hav

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> If someone did this, would you accept the patch?  I described a > > sure; i'd recommend doing it as a proof-of-concept first in a new Containment > plugin, so that it isn't bumping into existing layout code. it would make it > easier to te

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 9, 2010, Chani wrote: > it was mostly the fact that the api has the assumption that there is One > And Only One "current" activity; wanted to be sure that wouldn't cause us > headaches someday. as long as that doesn't mean one current Containment, we'll be fine. via Plasma::Context, an A

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 9, 2010, todd rme wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> The critical thing here is that containments have to rescale the > >> widgets they contain depending on the monitor resolution. Otherwise > > > > this is both containment-specific (not all containments

Re: Manual Hiding of Plasma Panel (desktop shell)

2010-03-10 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On March 10, 2010, Andrzej JR Hunt wrote: > margins into account when resizing the containment it shows, i.e. is this > actually a plasma bug that the contentsmargins don't do anything? Doing yes, Plasma::View probably should be taking margins into account. that should also solve the issues with

Re: Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread wspeir
Just to give a bit of perspective -- I have seen this type of behavior on other platforms before. It's been around for several years so it's not completely out of the blue. Of course, I can't remember the specifics. It seems to me that it may have been an add-on behavior to Windows or the A

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday 10 March 2010 13:22:04 Davide Bettio wrote: > > > On 2010-03-10 07:28:38, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > Why do we still need prevent screen locking? It seems to do nothing, > > > > so I would say it can be removed completely. > > >

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 13:22:04 Davide Bettio wrote: > > On 2010-03-10 07:28:38, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > Why do we still need prevent screen locking? It seems to do nothing, so > > > I would say it can be removed completely. > > If you keep the mouse in a corner the screensaver will not st

Re: Manual Hiding of Plasma Panel (desktop shell)

2010-03-10 Thread Andrzej JR Hunt
> > - The suggested method is to make the panel containment smaller than the > > view, then adding the buttons in the empty space at either end of the > > view, and painting the background to make it one with the containment? > > (This would require rewriting all of the view's calls to resize the >

Re: Review Request: Molmasscalcuation for the kalzium-engine

2010-03-10 Thread Carsten Niehaus
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3228/#review4454 --- Ship it! Looks good to me. Thanks for taking care! - Carsten On 20

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, todd rme wrote: > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 10 March 2010, todd rme wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> >> The critical thing here is that containments have to rescale the > >> >> widgets th

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 10 March 2010, todd rme wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> >> The critical thing here is that containments have to rescale the >> >> widgets they contain depending on the monitor resolution.  Other

Building Containment with Python

2010-03-10 Thread LordBlueLight
Hi plasma-devel@kde.org subscribers, I'm trying to build a Containmanet with Python and right at the beginning I'm failing and need some help. I want to create something with a Plasma::TabBar where each tab can contain widgets. I want to have "pages" on my Dashboard. My first approach was to c

Re: Review Request: frame plasmoid: image load and scaling with threads

2010-03-10 Thread Marco Martin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3162/#review4448 --- didn't follow so much the issue, but from a quick look at the code see

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
> On 2010-03-10 07:28:38, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Why do we still need prevent screen locking? It seems to do nothing, so I > > would say it can be removed completely. > > Davide Bettio wrote: > If you keep the mouse in a corner the screensaver will not start and the > screen will not be

Re: Review Request: merging screen edges settings.

2010-03-10 Thread Davide Bettio
> On 2010-03-10 07:28:38, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Why do we still need prevent screen locking? It seems to do nothing, so I > > would say it can be removed completely. If you keep the mouse in a corner the screensaver will not start and the screen will not be locked. - Davide ---

Re: n+1st report about arrow keys in krunner

2010-03-10 Thread Diego Moya
On 9 March 2010 17:54, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: regardless, there are ways of doing the keyboard interaction with the > current > set of widgets that will work. i'm not interested in breaking the history > feature on those who use it and rely on it just to reach some search-tool- > purity. > Neither

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, todd rme wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> The critical thing here is that containments have to rescale the > >> widgets they contain depending on the monitor resolution. Otherwise > > > > this is both containment-specific (not all co

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On March 9, 2010, Chani wrote: > > well yeah, but then when the screen is disconnected you can't get at the > > containment(s) that were on it until you reconnect a screen. > > or do you think that's just not important? > > i can imagine use case

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
> hmm. am i reading this correctly that this kded service is only needed if > nepomuk is not there, and that it serves as a cache-in-the-middle between > nepomuk and the applications? this seems like a lot of overhead just to this was one of the kwin people wishes. Even with nepomuk, a cache-in-th

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On March 8, 2010, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > - libs/consumer > > ActivityConsumer - basic access to kded service for normal apps > > ActivityInfo - access to extra info provided by nepomuk - this one will > > probably get expanded in future. > > > > -

Re: 4.5 - Activities

2010-03-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
> so... I dunno... should we build the API so that it's possible to have >1 > visible activity? or should we decide that the activity is completely > global, and then figure out how to gracefully handle changes in the number > of monitors? > > I'd prefer the latter, but I just don't have experie