Probably return "7582" instead of "7581".
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On 8/1/07, Mark Summers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This sort of thing really isn't helpful...
>
>
> $a = 75.82 * 100;
>
> echo intval($a);
>
> ?>
>
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The age old question... is it that time of the year again already?
Some reviews and lists:
http://www.php-editors.com/
I've used Zend Studio for years, and really like it, but lately I've gotten
tired of the java virtual machine seeming to hog tons of system resources.
I've also used Crimson E
Ok, you got the obligatory 'wrong list' comments. It is the wrong list, but
for the sake of public completeness... how about an answer to the question.
You can put it anywhere but a couple of considerations:
1. I believe if you put it AFTER where the JS functions defined in that block
are call
I've never found a use for it myself, but yes.. php provides for 'variable
variables':
http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.variable.php
$a = 'varname';
$varname = 'test';
echo $$a;
> test
-TG
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Thanks for your help with my other question, heres a new o
You were on the right track, but this isn't going to work.. for a couple
reasons:
$var = 1; # this is fine
$var2 = "$var"; # $var2 == 1 at this point
echo $$var2; # you're going to echo $1
Putting $var in double quotes makes PHP evaluate it before assigning it to
$var2, so you won't get $var b
Try:
pow($base, $exp);
http://us2.php.net/manual/en/function.pow.php
Not sure why PHP doesn't use the ^.. havn't looked to see if it's already used
for something else.
-TG
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Hi there list.
Thanks for your help with my other questions.
I was carrying on working th
When my level of free time matches my level of curiousity, I'll have to
research it further. For now, I'm ok with not knowing unless someone posts the
answer here. hah
-TG
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At 1:45 PM -0400 6/27/06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try:
>
>pow($base, $exp);
>
>http://us
Ahh.. thanks from the lazy programmer :) I knew I had seen it somewhere.
Guess they ran out of symbols and decided XOR was more important than
exponential operations. hah
My vote would have been for ^ to remain for exponents and something overly
complicated like |X| for xor..hah
-TG
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Huh.. thanks for the illustration Robin. Can't say that I did much with
exponents when I've played around with perl or python or C.. and never worked
with Java. You've expanded my view.
Ok, now what languages DO use ^ for exponents?
-TG
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On 28/06/06, tedd <[EMAIL
On the other hand, you can tell the web server that the browser has been closed
or the page has 'exited'. Not 100% reliable, but in theory you could use the
"onUnload" (think that was it) event for a web page that does something sloppy like spawn a popup
window that hits a PHP script that the
I think they call it 'futbol' in your native language tedd. Or was that
'maize'.. it was one or the other :)
-TG
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At 1:26 AM -0300 7/1/06, Martin Alterisio wrote:
>That's all folks. Coming up next: an innovative realistic soccer simulation
>game: "Fix the World Cup"
By 'change management' do you mean something like version control software?
CVS, Subversion, etc?
We use CVS at work and tried setting up Subversion at one point. I don't
know, maybe we're all a bunch of retarded monkies here or maybe both systems
are just overly complicated, but I don't lik
Best "proving I'm old" line ever had to have been "I *named* dirt!".. forget
where I saw that. Had to share :)
-TG
"Top posting is for people who remember the conversation and don't care to see
it again" :)
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Jochem Maas wrote:
> tedd wrote:
>> At 11:27 AM +0300 6
If you're only sorting by one column at a time (not adding to a column sort
list) then you can do something like this:
$ascdesc = ($_GET['sortcol'] == 'colA' AND $_GET['ad'] == 'ASC') ? 'DESC' :
'ASC';
echo "ColA\n";
$ascdesc = ($_GET['sortcol'] == 'colB' AND $_GET['ad'] == 'ASC') ? 'DESC' :
'
Looks like totem supports playlists, why not just generate a playlist and pipe
that into totem?
And I don't see any obvious documentation without downloading Totem, but you
might check to see if there's an "exit on end" option that'd return control
back to PHP if a playlist isn't an option.
Or
Well, I had similar problems at a previous job with SourceSafe as I'm having
with CVS. I totally "get" and understand the concept of these systems, but
they're still overly headachey to use. Maybe I DONT really get them. hah. I
understand mostly how they work and the concept but it seems like
I believe someone gave the regex code for it already, but if you wanted to do
it the clumsy way (for those of us who are regex challenged still) here's an
alternative:
$str = "cn=emailadmin,ou=services,dc=domain,dc=net";
$argsarray = explode(",", $str);
foreach ($argsarray as $argstr) {
list
Actually it's going to be a little more complicated than a 'ksort' here I think.
ksort on the main array is going to give you:
array (
"TBA0123451" => array("Country"=>"Germany","Model"=>"WS6234"),
"TBA0123452" => array("Country"=>"England","Model"=>"WS1234"),
"TBA0123456" => array("Coun
My brain is really fried right now and I'm sure someone has a more indepth
answer/opinion on this subject, but it occurs to me that you can get away from
using eval() if you do some kind of recursive function using:
$temp[] = array($arrval1, $arrval2,...);
and $arrval1 could == array($arr2val1
We have a similar (and still non-PHP related) issue at work where we want to do
the "call may be monitored for quality assurance" thing on the new phone system
we just got. Our old phone system was analog and provided for this feature.
The new system is a Cisco IP Phone deal which is really re
Sorry, misread the "splitter" comment earlier. A splitter pre-USB off of the
headset or phone-unit somewhere may work too.
-TG
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We have a similar (and still non-PHP related) issue at work where we want to do
the "call may be monitored for quality assurance" thing
Create your own "back" button that re-posts the same data back to the search
page?
Or have a "new search" (that takes you back without filling in the old search
data) as well as a "revise search" or something that takes you back without
while retaining the original search data.
Or do like some
Create your own "back" button that re-posts the same data back to the search
page?
Or have a "new search" (that takes you back without filling in the old search
data) as well as a "revise search" or something that takes you back without
while retaining the original search data.
Or do like some
The escaping works fine for me.. using the code:
$var1 = 1;
$var2 = 3;
echo "\$var1: $var2";
print "\$var1: $var2";
print ("\$var1: $var2");
All output:
$var1: 3
as expected.
Is there a way to re-define the escape character or something? I can't think
of why that wouldn't escape the $ prope
Let's look at your original message:
Using this string:
"$var1: $var2"
of course it doesn't work as some might expect.
It works exactly as expected. Within double-quotes, things like variables get
evaluated. In this case $var1 and $var2 will be repl
Unneeded clutter, yes.. but I owe you an apology and since the mistake was
public, I'll make the apology public as well.
I use a 'universal' email checker called ePrompter. It does text-only, no
HTML, so it filters out HTML messages, but have never had a problem with it
filtering out braces, b
mysql_real_escape_string() is a function that returns the post-processed value.
So you can either do it like this:
$safe_value = mysql_real_escape_string($unsafe_value);
then use $safe_value in your query, or put the function right into your query:
$myQY = "INSERT INTO sometable (value) values
Emil.. I havn't played with GD too much but I suspect it has something to do
with the fact that digital cameras tend to save EXIF jpg images that have some
extra headers on them with data about the camera and other stuff (some cameras
even have GPS in them and will store the lat/long of where th
With my brief foray into ASP.NET for a previous job, I remember "postback"
being a conglomeration of junk code that it used to POST data back to the
server and may have been kinda AJAXy in nature.
The forms in ASP.NET tended to do stuff like convert from a static text string
to a INPUT field wh
Think he's looking for something that'll manage comments.. not bugs. As he
says, so people can post comments (like in the online PHP docs where there are
user comments for differnent entries with their own code samples and notes).
-TG
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Maybe you mean a bug tracker?
There is no practical way to 'decrypt' an MD5 hash. It is meant to be a
one-way encoding of data to produce a (mostly) unique ID. It does a lot better
job than some of it's predecessors like CRC32, in producing a unique ID, but
apparently it still has a very slim possibility of generating the
http://www.winbinder.com
much better than GTK if you work on Windows platforms and want standalone PHP
apps :)
And I can't find it now, but a few years ago when I was dipping my toe into the
ASP.NET world to try to be compliant with "Existing standards" in a company I
worked for (before aband
WAP is just a sort of XML specific to creating 'cards' and content for cell
phones. I did some stuff a few years ago, was even in line to teach a class at
a local training institute.
Once you figure out what structure you want to use for your cards and all that,
the PHP stuff is really seconda
Ah.. grat pull! I did forget about that one. Good stuff, thanks! And yes,
that appears to be the address.
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On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 17:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> http://www.w3schools.com/wap/
Also, don't forget hawhaw. I think it lives at http://www.hawhaw.
As Rasmus said, they filter as much as they can on the list.
But consider this... if someone's machine is infected and they below to this
email list, it can harvest your email address and either spam (or send malware)
from their PC to you or send your email address to somewhere else where it can
As Rasmus said, they filter as much as they can on the list.
But consider this... if someone's machine is infected and they below to this
email list, it can harvest your email address and either spam (or send malware)
from their PC to you or send your email address to somewhere else where it can
As Rasmus said, they filter as much as they can on the list.
But consider this... if someone's machine is infected and they below to this
email list, it can harvest your email address and either spam (or send malware)
from their PC to you or send your email address to somewhere else where it can
As Rasmus said, they filter as much as they can on the list.
But consider this... if someone's machine is infected and they below to this
email list, it can harvest your email address and either spam (or send malware)
from their PC to you or send your email address to somewhere else where it can
Doesn't look like the content type is set properly. Here's another link that
may be useful (from Zend themselves!) maybe that can help you out a bit.
Content type and setting the xml version and DOCTYPE in the header are all
fairly important.
Also, if I recall.. Firefox and/or Opera (not IE)
Would it be possible, Jochem, to just make a shell script that does the call to
mysql and have PHP exec() the shell script?
I don't know if you'd have the same problem or not. I've never done something
like this in *nix and paid attention to the process list.
Also, I'm guessing you're seeing y
Ah.. makes sense. Good old DOS is stupid enough not to card most times. You
can create a text file with a "Y" in it, and redirect it into a command like:
del . < y.txt
Guess that's not a pipe technically. And some commands may be smart enough to
prevent something like this.
Thanks for the
If you did use ENV to set the username and password, you could always unset it
using the same method after you ran the mysql command. So it'd only be exposed
for a very brief period of time and slightly less accessible than just running
a process list.
It still falls under the category of "sec
Without using cookies or session information, you're going to go through your
picture list faster depending on how many users are accessing the random pic
page. If you don't make it user-specific, then it doesn't really matter if you
go through the images sequentially.. it may appear random on
You'd assume those ENV variables are secure.. or secure "enough". I know
there's no such thing as perfect security, but I still wonder if there's a
better way.
Although at this point, if there was a way to read other process/subprocess ENV
variables, it'd most likely be something an attacker w
If you didn't say "using regex" this is how I'd do it (untested, forgive typos
and such..ripped from some code I actively use and stripped down):
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The example provided didn't work for me. It gave me the same string without
anything modified.
I am also looking for
I'm going to be controversial here and take issue with both of you.
1. The original question was about a hosting provider. Presumably a PHP web
hosting provider. So it is vaguely on-topic and is a question that's asked a
lot. It's easy to get a list of hosting providers online, but I believe t
I'm going to be controversial here and take issue with both of you.
1. The original question was about a hosting provider. Presumably a PHP web
hosting provider. So it is vaguely on-topic and is a question that's asked a
lot. It's easy to get a list of hosting providers online, but I believe t
I hate you all. Screw PHP. I'm switching to Cold Fusion.
:)
PS. Puppies are good with ketchup.
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tedd wrote:
> At 3:50 PM -0500 12/18/06, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm going to be controversial here and take issue with both of you.
>>
>> 2. Pointing out someone
To view a video, you do have to download it. But you don't have to download all
of it at once.
If a user did have to download the whole video and you still wanted to protect
it, you'd want to look into some kind of DRM (digital rights management)
solution probably.
YouTube and similar streamin
Cheers tedd! Thanks for coming around. Life's too short to stress about
stuff like this. There's always going to be people who don't understand (after
all.. HE WASNT THERE MAN! sorry.. I couldn't help it :) I wasn't there
either so my turn to be village idiot for a moment.. forgive the at
So you have two "single table" votes.. make this a third. I'm guessing that
each time you collect data, it's going to be one of each piece of data every
time.
Temperature, barametric pressure, humidity, wind direction, etc. You're not
going to have 5 things all the time and like 3 other thin
Ha! Mine too! How long before this secret gets out and our apps all start
imploding??
Technically this is true. You can't do AJAX with PHP4. Or PHP5. Not the
"AJAX" part at least, since it's all handled in Javascript.What gets
returned to the AJAX app and what it interacts with on the
Not sure why it does it, but doesn't seem to be a huge deal. I'm guessing it's
because an empty string is still a string. It's not null.
Anyway, it's documented at:
http://us3.php.net/manual/en/function.explode.php
A user writes:
"If you split an empty string, you get back a one-element array
I would guess this would depend highly on how you're displaying the data.
Let's set up a scenario:
1. Full results come out to say, 100 records.
2. Searched item is #53 in the result set.
Your choices for displaying the data could be one of the following:
* One big web page, jumping to the res
Don't know if it helps much, but maybe there's something buried in WinBinder
(http://www.winbinder.com) that could help. It's a much better (IMO) Windows
GUI for PHP than GTK is... and is windows specific so might have have w32/ffi
helper functions.
Good luck!
-TG
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Yeah, you can't do the local computer file moving and all that with the same
script as your server side component, but if you'd rather not learn C# or
another language like that, but you're comfortable with PHP, I'd highly
recommend checking out Winbinder (http://www.winbinder.com). Assuming yo
Yeah, that foreach is outright printing the arrays (foreach $parent... print
$parent?)
I'm guessing you wouldn't ask this, Jay, unless there was an issue with not
knowing the depth of the data.
I saw something once with doing recursive function calls to dig down into an
array or something. S
Yeah.. or something like this! (Chris' looks better than mine.. maybe his
brain's working at 70% today :)
-TG
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> a. loop through it and recognize when I have com upon a new sub-array so
> that I can do 'new' output
> 2. OR get each of the sub-arrays out as individua
If you need to backtrack from the lat/long to the "H" key, why not build a
reverse lookup array?
$arr[$lat . ":" . $long] = $hvalue;
?
-TG
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[snip]
> a. loop through it and recognize when I have com upon a new sub-array so
> that I can do 'new' output
> 2. OR get ea
For the purpose of creating phpBB accounts? As in, automated creation of mass
amounts of phpBB accounts maybe for the purpose of spamming phpBB's?
Just curious. Please clarify the need to automate creation of phpBB accounts if
that's what you're asking for.
-TG
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I
Stut... how many of those have asked for your credit card number?
-TG
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Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> I'm looking for a ready made php script that can open phpBB 2.0.20
> accounts
> By sending username, email and password.
> /snip]
>
> I am looking for a good hearte
The idea of creating a phpBB user when a weberdev one is created has merit, but
I'm not sure I saw anyone recommend doing the opposite?
Since you have a fair idea of how weberdev creates users (since you created it)
why not insert some PHP code into phpBB to create a weberdev account when
someo
Not sure about php.net specifically, but two things to note here:
If you leave off a filename at the end of the URL, the web server will look for
a 'default' document. On apache and unix systems I believe the default is
"index.html" and on IIS systems it's something like "Default.htm". Most of
You could do that... a "poor man's mod_rewrite" might involve something like
this and making the main PHP parsing script your 404 page.. so no matter where
you went on a page, the 404 redirect to your PHP script would parse the request
(or would you get the post-redirected URL? in which case you
All depends on how the data is used after it's interpreted/split:
http://www.example.com/index.php/edit/customer/1234
$action = "edit";
$type = "customer";
$id = "1234";
header("Location:
http://www.example.com/index.php?action=$action&type=$type&id=$id";);
In this case, what happens if someo
You could try separating out the number an formatting it with SQL and doing an
ORDER BY on the post-processed number. It doesn't have to appear in the SELECT
portion to be able to use it in the ORDER BY section.
SELECT BookName, PageNum, Citation FROM BookQuotes ORDER BY LPAD(PageNum,4,'0');
Going to amend this by saying that whereever the number you need to sort by is
located, you should be able to extract it and do the padding trick even if it's
in the middle of a string.. as long as the format is regular enough.
-TG
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You could try separating out the
Damn.. tough crowd here.. hah.. glad everyone has a sense of humor at least.
hah..
-TG
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Sumeet wrote:
> John Nichel wrote:
>> cajbecu wrote:
>>>
$300 / hr
8 hr minimum per day
available 0800 - 0900EST
>>>
>>>
>>> it`s a joke, right?
>>>
>>
>> Not
Ok.. my turn for the $300/hr jokes (no, we're not paying that.. nor are we
paying $299/hr.. sorry John)
Here's the skinny.. more details available upon request.
Should have a more-than-decent grasp on the following:
PHP4
MySql4
Javascript (AJAX experience is nice but not necessary)
HTML and CSS
Couple of things you can try..
1. If you have control of the browsers being used, there may be a setting to
turn off the address printing (I seem to remember something like that.. but
don't remember what browser it was).
2. CSS2 has some print control functionality that might help
3. (more PHP
Actually I don't believe this is exactly right from playing around with
Photoshop you can see that you change an image's resolution under Image ->
Image Size and if you turn off "Resample Image", it will retain the same pixel
dimensions.
GIF's are limited to 72dpi (or ppi if you prefer.. p
First, a correction or clarification to what I was saying. PPI and DPI are not
the same. PPI is used for on-screen display, DPI is used for printing. The
quick and dirty with DPI is that printers can print dots, but each dot
represents only (typically) the standard CMYK (cyan, magenta, yellow
His name was invoked and he appears (didn't even have to say it three times)!!
All too reminiscent of Kibo of usenet days of old. hah
So if you won the international lottery, Jason, where's the latte and/or beer
that we all got coming to us? Just skypecast me an e-coupon to my iPod GPS.
Than
session_start() doesn't need to be the first line of your PHP code, it just
needs to be called before any other output is performed. Including any blank
spaces or anything else. If you have:
---
1:
2:
---
It's not going to work because you have a blank line being output to the
browser for i
I seem to remember something about rounding functions and accounting.. that
there's a rule in accounting that says if the trailing number is even you round
down, odd you round up.. or something like that. I know that's different than
standard 'math' but in accounting it apparently helps deal wi
Since we're talking about include()ing functions specifically, I don't think
there's going to be much trouble to be had. Your file may be something like
this:
If that's executed by PHP by being called directly, it won't do anything.
It's worth noting your point for completeness' sake so som
I'm kind of coming from the outside here, so forgive my ignorance on some
matters. I have some OO experience, just not with PHP and have only worked
with PHP4 so again.. kind of on the outside of all this.
Rasmus, you make a great point here. OO is structured and is all about
constraints wher
The Obfuscated C contest had a category for most complicated solution to a
simple problem. Like 50 lines of code to add two numbers together, stuff like
that.
-TG
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At 9:52 AM -0500 6/2/06, Jay Blanchard wrote:
>[snip]
>It might be interesting to see how long of a p
I know this discussion doesn't need to continue any further..hah.. but I think
the biggest confusion people are having is that they're looking at two things
and assuming that PHP operates the same on both and these two things serve
different purposes.
1. Incrementing strings: Best example givin
This is just one of those cases where the designers had to make a judgement
call on how things were going to operate. It makes sense if you look at the
two things separately (incrementing vs string 'greatness' evaluation) and makes
sense that how they chose to implement the functions are two va
Crap.. I remember seeing an example of something that yielded arrays like this
and now I can't find it.
It basically created an array (from a database I thought.. but can't find the
example under mysql_fetch_assoc or mysql_fetch_array... thought it was in the
standard PHP documentation (not the
I'm guessing that phpBB is doing things the "right way".. that is, separating
presentation and logic. In cases like that, you have your PHP code and your
HTML in separate files with as little 'logic' in the HTML as possible.
I'm kind of oversimplifying the explaination and I'm sure there are "m
Shouldn't be too difficult in PHP.
\n";
echo "Minutes difference: $minutesdiff\n";
echo "Hours difference: $hoursdiff\n";
echo "Days difference: $daysdiff\n";
?>
And if you want a larger example to play with, here's something I did a couple
years ago (forgive the word wrapping and any unr
After you do your first insert, do:
$insertedid = mysql_insert_id();
That will give you the autoincrement ID from the last INSERT you did. Note,
this doesn't retrieve the last autoincrement ID from any insert, just the last
one for thta specific mysql connection. So you don't have to worry ab
It worked on my IE and I don't have .NET Framework installed, so guess it's not
a .NET specific thing. Did not work on my Firefox (as it was advertised not
to). I havn't looked at the code, but it's not a matter of the module doing a
browser detect and 'downshifting' if it didn't detect a genu
All the suggestions made earlier make sense. You could use a regular
expression or a str_replace() if you knew what you were looking for. And as
someone mentioned, depending on your data set, you might want to use trim() (or
the left or right variety thereof).
When dealing with a single line
You maybe able to do this (and will eventually definitely be able to do this)
with Winbinder on Windows platform with native GUI. He's still on what he
calls "pre-alpha" but what's in there already is coming along very nicely.
Check out the sourceforge pages:
http://winbinder.sourceforge.net/
Well, you could try XP's "Compatibility Mode", I think my girlfriend got
Afterlife to run under XP doing that. She got it to run somehow..haha..
because we just found a copy of Afterlife for like $1 somewhere and she picked
it up.
Or, if you happen to be blessed with VMWare, there's always tha
Is it an associative array? That is, are you assigning values like this:
Method 1:
$arr[] = "some text string";
or
$arr = array("some text string","some text string too");
or like this...
Method 2:
$arr["value1"] = "some text string";
or
$arr1 = array("value1"=>"some text string","value2"=>"som
I believe this is because taking a value and displaying it as an unsigned value
isn't the same as displaying the absolute value of a number.
Ever take a calculator that does hex and decimal, enter a negative number then
convert it to hex? There's no negative in hex, so you end up with something
Well, depends on your definition of a kb, mb, gb, etc..
You seem to be mixing definitions here.
One school of thought is that...
1000 bytes = 1 kb
1000 kb = 1 mb
1000 mb = 1 gb
In reality...
1024 bytes = 1 kb
1024 kb = 1 mb
1024 mb = 1 gb
You're checking filesize against the '1000' method the
Greetings!
I've posted this before, but there are always new readers so here's my script
solution. One of these days I'll make it a function or something, but this
should give you a good general idea of how to do such a thing in case you need
it again in the future.
btw: This also calculates
Ahh.. the trick question. hah.. Ok, let me see if I remember this (although it
doesn't seem to follow the logic in my head.. I know someone else will explain
it better but let me take a crack at it):
When comparing a two different variable types that PHP thinks it knows how to
compare, it will
Sounds like $_GET isn't populated or has been over-written. Try doing the
classic print_r on $_GET to see what it contains before you do the foreach.
If you are using a form (rather than an a_href link) to pass the GET data and
you're using all checkboxes or something else that returns nothing
If your question is a matter of "Is this a good programming practice" then I
think it's ok. There are times when something like this could be really useful.
Should people get into the practice of using this kind of thing? I think it
really depends on the circumstances and there's definitely ti
Ok, I think the other response you got is mostly right, but I don't think it's
clear what you're trying to do.
If you enable NTLM authentication on the web server, then you can have the
user's browser send the authenticated username to the web server. You'd do
that like this:
1. On your web s
One minor correction. Zend Studio is not available as a complete product for
free, but the last time I used it they let you use most of the functionality
for free, just disabled some of the advanced functions unless you paid. You
just needed to get a new freeware license every 30 days or so.
Just out of curiosity.. relating to this subject.. does anyone have any good
documentation on creating your own site index so you can create your own search
engine?
That is.. do search engines like Google take every word in a web page and if
you search for that specific word it has a list of a
I believe HTML uses ' and " interchangeably. No real difference. Well, it
also depends on the HTML rendering engine too I guess. IE might do it ok but
Firefox might not.. things like that. But I think as far as the spec goes, you
can use both.In a lot of cases, as long as there are no sp
Yeah, that looks like it. Even one little feature like being able to "show
table cell borders" and toggle that one and off can be invaluable to someone
who habitually goes in and sets a "border=1" for a table then has to go back
and do "border=0" after checking the table. The web browser know
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