Re: [PHP] Re: header modify errors

2008-12-15 Thread Terion Miller
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Jay Moore wrote: > Terion Miller wrote: > >> I am working from home today and getting this error with my copy of my >> project: >> *Warning*: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by >> (output started at >> C:\Inetpub\Xampp\htdocs\SNLeader\WOSy

Re: [PHP] Re: header modify errors

2008-12-15 Thread VamVan
Hey, Few things: 1) Check to see if you have any trailing spaces after the end of the file. 2) Check to see if your session_start() is not the first line of the code. Thanks, V On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Terion Miller wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Jay Moore wrote: > > > Te

Re: [PHP] Re: header modify errors

2008-12-15 Thread Terion Miller
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Jim Lucas wrote: > Jay Moore wrote: > > Terion Miller wrote: > >> I am working from home today and getting this error with my copy of my > >> project: > >> *Warning*: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by > >> (output started at > >> C:\Inetp

Re: [PHP] Re: header modify errors

2008-12-15 Thread Jim Lucas
Jay Moore wrote: > Terion Miller wrote: >> I am working from home today and getting this error with my copy of my >> project: >> *Warning*: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by >> (output started at >> C:\Inetpub\Xampp\htdocs\SNLeader\WOSystem\Welcome.php:31) >> in *C:\Inetpub

Re: [PHP] Re: Header() - POST

2008-09-21 Thread Stut
On 20 Sep 2008, at 01:23, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-09-05 17:11:58, schrieb Stut: You're trying to post to the browser which won't know how to handle it. The header() function is modifying the response headers that are being sent back to the browser, they do not create a new request. If y

Re: [PHP] Re: Header() - POST

2008-09-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 14:29 +0200, Lupus Michaelis wrote: > Maciek Sokolewicz a écrit : > > > Your xss answer is moot. XSS attacks can (almost) just as easily be > > performed via POST as they can via GET. > >No, because you can't click on a link that make a post. Maybe on > unsecured brows

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-17 Thread mike
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Nathan Rixham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > off on a tangent.. I made this some time ago which is rather useful: > > $url = new url('http://php.net/some.page'); > > echo $url; > echo $url->scheme; Why would you need this with parse_url() ? Seems like that functio

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-17 Thread Nathan Rixham
Micah Gersten wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if in the $_SERVER array you could get the whole URL now that PHP has a parse_url function? Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com off on a tangent.. I made this some time ago which is rather useful: class

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-17 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jochem Maas wrote: Robert Cummings schreef: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:18 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: Jim Lucas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: I also meant: define('PUBLIC_BASE_HREF' , 'http://php.net/') and further thinking there has

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-17 Thread mike
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Micah Gersten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouldn't it be nice if in the $_SERVER array you could get the whole URL > now that PHP has a parse_url function? That actually would be a nice thing to have, instead of having to build it yourself (considering people do

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Micah Gersten
Wouldn't it be nice if in the $_SERVER array you could get the whole URL now that PHP has a parse_url function? Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Jochem Maas wrote: > Robert Cummings schreef: >> On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:18 +0100, Nathan Rixham w

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings schreef: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:18 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: Jim Lucas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: I also meant: define('PUBLIC_BASE_HREF' , 'http://php.net/') and further thinking there has to be an easier / cl

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 21:18 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > Jim Lucas wrote: > > Robert Cummings wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > >>> I also meant: > >>> define('PUBLIC_BASE_HREF' , 'http://php.net/') > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> and further thinking there has

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jim Lucas wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: I also meant: define('PUBLIC_BASE_HREF' , 'http://php.net/') and further thinking there has to be an easier / cleaner way of getting "http://"; / "https://"; in php.. What's wrong with $_SERVER

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Jim Lucas
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: >> I also meant: >> define('PUBLIC_BASE_HREF' , 'http://php.net/') >> >> >> >> >> and further thinking there has to be an easier / cleaner way of getting >> "http://"; / "https://"; in php.. > > What's wrong with

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > > I also meant: > define('PUBLIC_BASE_HREF' , 'http://php.net/') > > > > > and further thinking there has to be an easier / cleaner way of getting > "http://"; / "https://"; in php.. What's wrong with $_SERVER['HTTPS'] ? Cheers, Rob.

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Nathan Rixham
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:49 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: tedd wrote: At 3:16 PM +0100 9/16/08, Nathan Rixham wrote: Alain R. wrote: Hi, how in PHP can i create the similar header as following ? thx. A. just incase everybody else went down a complete tangent on thi

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:49 +0100, Nathan Rixham wrote: > tedd wrote: > > At 3:16 PM +0100 9/16/08, Nathan Rixham wrote: > >> Alain R. wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> how in PHP can i create the similar header as following ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> thx. > >>> > >>> A. > >> > >> just incase ev

Re: [PHP] Re: header

2008-09-16 Thread Nathan Rixham
tedd wrote: At 3:16 PM +0100 9/16/08, Nathan Rixham wrote: Alain R. wrote: Hi, how in PHP can i create the similar header as following ? thx. A. just incase everybody else went down a complete tangent on this one it's not nice, elegant, the *proper* way to do things but it'll do th

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-25 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/25/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You Dans driving me insine with all those dans :P Tijnema -- Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info Be jealous and afraid. It's not just a name it's a race. -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [m

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-25 Thread Tijnema
On 7/25/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/25/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You Dans driving me insine with all those dans :P > > Tijnema > -- > Vote for PHP Color Coding in Gmail! -> http://gpcc.tijnema.info > Be jealous and afraid. It's not just a name it's a r

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-25 Thread Tijnema
On 7/25/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/24/07, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 08:13 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > > > Hello, Dans! > > > > Dan K., is there any reason the validation can't reside within the > > same script as the form, then

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-25 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/24/07, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 08:13 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > Hello, Dans! > > Dan K., is there any reason the validation can't reside within the > same script as the form, then forward on success? A very simple > example: > > if($_POST) {

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 08:13 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: > Hello, Dans! > > Dan K., is there any reason the validation can't reside within the > same script as the form, then forward on success? A very simple > example: > > if($_POST) { > // Check to ensure that your variables are al

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-24 Thread Tijnema
On 7/24/07, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/23/07, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the response Dan. Us Dans have to stick together :) > > On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 17:37 -0700, Dan wrote: > > > Then validate the field obviously! > > $description = ""; > > $categoryi

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-24 Thread Daniel Brown
On 7/23/07, Daniel Kasak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the response Dan. Us Dans have to stick together :) On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 17:37 -0700, Dan wrote: > Then validate the field obviously! > $description = ""; > $categoryid = ""; > > if(isset($_POST['description'])) > $description = "?

Re: [PHP] Re: header( 'refresh' ), form data, and IE

2007-07-23 Thread Daniel Kasak
Thanks for the response Dan. Us Dans have to stick together :) On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 17:37 -0700, Dan wrote: > Then validate the field obviously! > $description = ""; > $categoryid = ""; > > if(isset($_POST['description'])) > $description = "?description=$_POST['description']"; > > if(isset($_P

Re: [PHP] Re: header('Location:') works locally but not remotely

2007-04-16 Thread Philip Thompson
On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Ross wrote: ok I have a page that calls my my functions, basically a 6 step signup. All the steps look like this function step_one() { $_SESSION['property_id'] =$_POST['property_id']; $property_id = $_POST['property_id']; $postcode= $_POST['postcode']; Escape

RE: [PHP] Re: header('Location:') works locally but not remotely

2007-04-16 Thread Tim
> -Message d'origine- > De : Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : lundi 16 avril 2007 19:54 > À : 'Ross'; php-general@lists.php.net > Objet : RE: [PHP] Re: header('Location:') works locally but > not remotely > > > > >

RE: [PHP] Re: header('Location:') works locally but not remotely

2007-04-16 Thread Tim
> -Message d'origine- > De : Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : lundi 16 avril 2007 19:45 > À : php-general@lists.php.net > Objet : [PHP] Re: header('Location:') works locally but not remotely > > ok I have a page that calls my my functions, basically a 6 > step signup. All the

Re: [PHP] RE: header data being inserted into message

2006-01-19 Thread Richard Lynch
On Tue, January 17, 2006 9:12 am, ET Support wrote: > I am having a problem using PHP's mail function to send mail via BCC > to > multiple recipients. Here's my code; > -- > $get_emails = pg_exec($dbh,"SELECT email FROM mailing_list WHERE conf > = 1"); > $count =

RE: [PHP] RE: header data being inserted into message

2006-01-18 Thread ET Support
ot; Thanks for the input! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:29 AM To: ET Support Subject: RE: [PHP] RE: header data being inserted into message what you're showing indicates that an MTA is getting confused about th

RE: [PHP] RE: header data being inserted into message

2006-01-18 Thread ET Support
rking then maybe I'll go to majordomo2. Anyone else have some advice for me here? Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Richard Correia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:37 PM To: ET Support Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: header data bein

Re: [PHP] RE: header data being inserted into message

2006-01-17 Thread Richard Correia
Hey, You can use the readymase mailer class from http://www.weberdev.com/get_example-462.html and http://www.weberdev.com/get_example-3724.html Thanks Richard On 1/17/06, ET Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am having a problem using PHP's mail function to send mail via

Re: [PHP] Re: Header target?

2004-06-14 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Bob Lockie wrote --- napísal:: On 06/12/04 19:05 Kim Steinhaug spoke: Steve Douville had a long answer, the short answer : no Ok, thanks. I want to avoid relying on Javascript anyways. Make _top the target of the form, then rebuild the frameset based on your logic. -- PHP General Mailing List (h

Re: [PHP] Re: Header target?

2004-06-14 Thread Bob Lockie
On 06/12/04 19:05 Kim Steinhaug spoke: Steve Douville had a long answer, the short answer : no Ok, thanks. I want to avoid relying on Javascript anyways. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function...

2003-10-15 Thread Tristan . Pretty
You are all heart... ;-) Curt Zirzow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 14/10/2003 17:23 To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: [PHP] Re: header() function... I officially declare this thread foobar. Curt -- "My PHP key is worn out" PHP List stats since 1997:

Re: [PHP] Re: header() refresh vs location

2003-10-14 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Chris Shiflett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > --- Kevin Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Refresh directive is a valid header. I've used it for many > > years and it seems to be supported by the majority of browsers. > > My experience has been the same. > > > However I've never read

Re: [PHP] Re: header() refresh vs location

2003-10-14 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- Kevin Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Refresh directive is a valid header. I've used it for many > years and it seems to be supported by the majority of browsers. My experience has been the same. > However I've never read anything that would indicate that Refresh > works any different

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function...

2003-10-14 Thread Scott Fletcher
In that case, you most likely would find the 'www.oldsite.com' in the ACCESS log or whatever it is. As for the redirecting, nah, there shouldn't be any interference. The webserver just record the browser's request into the log file, then come the header() for redirecting, then the webserver retri

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function...

2003-10-14 Thread Curt Zirzow
I officially declare this thread foobar. Curt -- "My PHP key is worn out" PHP List stats since 1997: http://zirzow.dyndns.org/html/mlists/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function...

2003-10-14 Thread Tristan . Pretty
Bog standard web server logs... We're hosted on a windows server I think... (sadly) "Scott Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 14/10/2003 16:25 To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject [PHP] Re: header() function... Web Server's log file or user defined log file (Sort of Like PHP Log)? "Tristan Pre

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function for displaying an opened PDF document.

2003-10-14 Thread Scott Fletcher
Aw, scratch that HTML conversion to PDF feature. It require an installation of a couple of other stuffs. I'm going to stick back to fpdf library for now. "Scott Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I'm using the library from www.fpdf.org. I currently using the

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function for displaying an opened PDF document.

2003-10-14 Thread Scott Fletcher
I'm using the library from www.fpdf.org. I currently using the method on storing the file to the server because of two features. One so I can have php script to use the email to pick up the file and send it to my boss. Two, an optional option to view the billing invoice. I am beginning to think

Re: [PHP] Re: header() function for displaying an opened PDF document.

2003-10-14 Thread Chris Hayes
It might help to have a peek at how the php Pdf libraries are doing this (www.php.net/pdflib, fpdf.org, www.ros.co.nz/pdf) . There are a lot of things to worry about with pdf, not the least the fact that older acrobat readers will give plenty of errors when the page is not send fast enough an

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Jonathan Duncan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Jay, > > Try replying to the group so that your contributions stay with the thread > instead of being orphaned and lost. he did. Curt -- "I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure." -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Scott Fletcher
But Jay Blanchard situation wasn't the only one. It's the same for other people. "Scott Fletcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Well, I'm using Outlook Express and it looked fine for an hour or so now. > But not with the ones earlier in the morning. Strange though

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Scott Fletcher
Well, I'm using Outlook Express and it looked fine for an hour or so now. But not with the ones earlier in the morning. Strange though! Scott F. "Jonathan Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Perhaps it is just Outlook Express but many of your replies are showing

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Jonathan Duncan
Perhaps it is just Outlook Express but many of your replies are showing as ophans. Jonathan "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Try replying to the group so that your contributions stay with the thread instead of being orphaned and lost. [/snip] I

RE: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Try replying to the group so that your contributions stay with the thread instead of being orphaned and lost. [/snip] I always do, did something weird happen? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Jonathan Duncan
Jay, Try replying to the group so that your contributions stay with the thread instead of being orphaned and lost. Regards, Jonathan Duncan "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Jay, good guess, but wrong! While register_globals does equal off, I am

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Jonathan Duncan
Marek and Rob, Doh! That was it. I am still finding things that I used to assign globally. It is a good thing, but it makes for a bit of work. Thanks to Jay too. I appreciate everyone's help. Have a good one, Jonathan Duncan "Marek Kilimajer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMA

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Scott Fletcher
Try $_REQUEST['pagename'] instead. Oh before you do that, try this and see if you have any received data at all in the first place. just look for 'pagename' in any arrays, don't look for $_GET['pagename'], just look for 'pagename' and see if there is any. --snip-- --snip-- "Jay Blanchard" <[EMA

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Robert Cummings
Here's an idea... echo each of the values and see what they actually contain. While you grab $pagename from $_GET, where are you getting $HTTPS? Is it a superglobal too? Maybe it's $_SERVER['HTTPS'] Cheers, Rob. On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 10:57, PHP wrote: > Jay, good guess, but wrong! While register

RE: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Jay, good guess, but wrong! While register_globals does equal off, I am using $_GET['pagename'] to assign the value to $pagename before the snippet of code that I sent. Sorry I didn't mention that earlier. I tried putting the _GET in my header redirection directly, but that didn't help.

Re: [PHP] Re: Header won't redirect

2003-09-19 Thread Marek Kilimajer
And what about $_SERVER["HTTPS"], are you using it? PHP wrote: Jay, good guess, but wrong! While register_globals does equal off, I am using $_GET['pagename'] to assign the value to $pagename before the snippet of code that I sent. Sorry I didn't mention that earlier. I tried putting the _GET

Re: [PHP] Re: header & headers_sent BUG

2003-07-27 Thread Marek Kilimajer
read www.php.net/variables.scope Eric Fleming wrote: I am having some problems using variables in included files. Can someone please look at my code below and see how I might accomplish what I am trying to do? The content would go here. Now, when I try to reference the subnav variable in

Re: [PHP] Re: header & headers_sent BUG

2003-07-23 Thread James M. Luedke
according to the php doc, online the headers are not affected by the Output Buffer, so any functions that manipulate the OB should have no effect. flush I do not beleive will fix this issue. (* I have tested it and it did not *) Still need a good way to accomplish this. Thanks, James Ivo Fokke

RE: [PHP] Re: header(); Issue

2003-06-19 Thread Mike At Spy
I'll give one of the suggestions a whirl (or both). I do have this same sort of thing on a different server with a more recent version of PHP - which is why I thought it might be a version issue. :) -Mike > -Original Message- > From: Esteban Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:

Re: [PHP] Re: header()

2002-07-11 Thread Alberto Serra
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! > Richard Lynch wrote: >> >> You can't upgrade somebody's stupid IE browser to Mozilla just by sending >> them a new User-Agent header, no matter how attractive a solution it >> might seem :-) LOL sounds like having a supermodel pic sticked on the face of any girl you don't like :) Or

Re: [PHP] Re: header()

2002-07-11 Thread Chris Hewitt
Richard Lynch wrote: > >You can't upgrade somebody's stupid IE browser to Mozilla just by sending >them a new User-Agent header, no matter how attractive a solution it might >seem :-) > Now this is a Really Great Idea. Upgrade everyones' browser on the fly by code. We would only then have to dec

Re: [PHP] Re: header() and frames

2002-03-07 Thread Jason Wong
On Thursday 07 March 2002 19:49, Alan McFarlane wrote: > Nope, that didn't work... > > Jim Winstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Alan McFarlane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > header("location: index.php; target: _top"); > > > > header(

Re: [PHP] Re: header("Location:);

2001-10-30 Thread Steve Cayford
On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 11:41 AM, Henrik Hansen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alberto) wrote: > >> Ok, it works fine for me, i can redirection, but I don't want the >> browser to >> load another page, I want to IF A THEN RUN A.PHP, IF B THEN RUN >> B.PHP, I >> know i can use include('a

Re: [PHP] Re: header function

2001-08-20 Thread speedboy
> > header("Location:index.php"); header("Location: login.php"); -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]