Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Eddie Drapkin wrote: > autoloading doesn't do anything but follow a set of logic rules to decide > what file to require, so it doesn't mess with opcode caches at all. umm.., right, but what do you think happens at the center of that logic ? require / include ca

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Eddie Drapkin
autoloading doesn't do anything but follow a set of logic rules to decide what file to require, so it doesn't mess with opcode caches at all. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Tony Marston < > t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk > > wrote: > > > > >

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Tony Marston wrote: > > "Eddie Drapkin" wrote in message > news:68de37340905280801m6964d355l2d6d8ef773f3b...@mail.gmail.com... > > There's a huge difference between laziness and opting in to use an > > incredibly useful (and easy to properly deploy) feature to sa

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:17 +0300, Olexandr Heneralov wrote: > Hi! > Do not use low-level AJAX. > There are many frameworks for ajax (JQUERY). > Try to use PHP frameworks like symfony, zend framework. They simplify your > work. > > > 2009/5/28 Lenin > > > 2009/5/28 kranthi > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Tony Marston
"Eddie Drapkin" wrote in message news:68de37340905280801m6964d355l2d6d8ef773f3b...@mail.gmail.com... > There's a huge difference between laziness and opting in to use an > incredibly useful (and easy to properly deploy) feature to save myself > time > so that I can spend more time writing that

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Eddie Drapkin
There's a huge difference between laziness and opting in to use an incredibly useful (and easy to properly deploy) feature to save myself time so that I can spend more time writing that structured and efficient code of which you speak. And the problem with what you're saying is that you still have

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Tony Marston
"Eddie Drapkin" wrote in message news:68de37340905280737t3e1ad844y188ab8fa08f17...@mail.gmail.com... > Your code might not, but you sure do! Spending all that time writing > require statements = :( If you are too lazy to write "require" statements then you are probably too lazy to write readab

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Eddie Drapkin
Your code might not, but you sure do! Spending all that time writing require statements = :( On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Tony Marston wrote: > > wrote in message > news:000e0cd6ad1a9f7d3d046af89...@google.com... > > Two things: > > > > 1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/fo

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Tony Marston
wrote in message news:000e0cd6ad1a9f7d3d046af89...@google.com... > Two things: > > 1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php instead of > foo/bar.php) > 2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually include > anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a mu

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Luke
2009/5/28 Olexandr Heneralov > Hi! > Do not use low-level AJAX. > There are many frameworks for ajax (JQUERY). > Try to use PHP frameworks like symfony, zend framework. They simplify your > work. > > > 2009/5/28 Lenin > > > 2009/5/28 kranthi > > > > > > > > > > > i recommend you firebug firefox

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Olexandr Heneralov
Hi! Do not use low-level AJAX. There are many frameworks for ajax (JQUERY). Try to use PHP frameworks like symfony, zend framework. They simplify your work. 2009/5/28 Lenin > 2009/5/28 kranthi > > > > > > > i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you > > can see all

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread Lenin
2009/5/28 kranthi > > > i recommend you firebug firefox adddon (just go to the net tab and you > can see all the details of the communication between client and > server) > and i find it helpful to use a standard javascript(jQuery in my case) > library instead of highly limited plain javascript

Re: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread oorza2k5
Two things: 1. Try using the fully qualified path (ie /var/www/foo/bar.php instead of foo/bar.php) 2. Look at setting up autoloading so you don't need to manually include anyway. If you're going OOP, autoloading is a must! On May 28, 2009 8:49am, kranthi wrote: i never faced such a proble

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP, OOP and AJAX

2009-05-28 Thread kranthi
i never faced such a problem and i can assure you that it will never happen. try... main.php second.php test call main.php via AJAX and see the responseText. many things can go wrong in your coding. dont come to the conclusion that this particular thing is not working. i recommend you firebug

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance

2003-05-30 Thread Dan Joseph
Hi, From my personal recent experience, I can tell you that processing a lot of echo's thru classes is a heck of a lot slower than just doing it the normal way. Although I wouldn't have done this particular project any other way, I do with that I could get it to display faster. Its not a

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance

2003-05-30 Thread rush
"Joe Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sure ... > > I'm of the belief that OOP (in PHP anyways) has great use for core > libraries. Core libraries, by their nature, generally don't output HTML. > It's a core libraries job to separate logic and presentation. How po

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance

2003-05-30 Thread Michael Sweeney
rsions of our > online catalog. > > --Joe > > > -Original Message- > From: Johnson, Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:21 AM > To: 'Joe Stump'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance >

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance

2003-05-30 Thread Joe Stump
s of our online catalog. --Joe -- Joe Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.joestump.net "Label makers are proof God wants Sys Admins to be happy." -Original Message- From: Johnson, Kirk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:21 AM To: 'Joe Stump'

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance

2003-05-30 Thread Johnson, Kirk
> One thing I'd like to abundantly point out is that NOT > EVERYTHING BELONGS IN > OOP! For instance, if you're building classes that output > HTML - you've > skipped a few chapters in your OOP design books. Joe, I am curious about this opinion, could you elaborate a bit, please? I am not an OO

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP x Procedural Performance

2003-05-30 Thread Joe Stump
In my experience OOP isn't any faster/slower. I've used it on sites that get 30M hits a month; so if it's gonna break I'd have seen it by now. One thing I'd like to abundantly point out is that NOT EVERYTHING BELONGS IN OOP! For instance, if you're building classes that output HTML - you've skippe

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP OOP

2002-09-03 Thread René Moonen
Rodrigo Dominguez wrote: >I made a mistake while I was writting the example, in my original code I >wrote it as you did, with $this->b[0] = new one(); but it doesn't work. >Thank you. > >"Philip Hallstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... >