RE: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 14:59 +0200, Chris Haensel wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:34 AM > To: Ross McKay > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your bett

Re: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread Richard Heyes
> Maybe if Richard picks up some proven software development procedures > like those simple ones mentioned, he won't be bitten like this again. > Maybe you won't be bitten likewise, unless you'd prefer to take umbrage > at offers of advice you don't like. I just want to point out that I don't need

Re: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread Ross McKay
Chris Haensel wrote: >I never thought someone seriously would go the whole way from dev, test and >prod servers [...] Really? You've never: * developed locally on your own server * uploaded to a published site, not the client's live site, for preview * uploaded the approved changes to the client

RE: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-06 Thread Chris Haensel
-Original Message- From: Daniel Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:34 AM To: Ross McKay Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your better nature On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Ross McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &

Re: [PHP] Re: An appeal to your better nature

2008-08-05 Thread Daniel Brown
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Ross McKay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Problems I see with the above: > > * good IT professionals use version control AND take backups > * good IT professionals work on dev servers and migrate to test, prod > * good IT professionals don't tend to claim "guru" stat