RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Sims
J B wrote: > On 9/21/05, Michael Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Additionally, some mail servers unconditionally accept mail >> addressed to ANY username at their domain, whether that user >> actually exists or not. This is very bad practice, because it >> usually means the accepting MTA is a "

Re: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
J B wrote: On 9/21/05, Michael Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Additionally, some mail servers unconditionally accept mail addressed to ANY username at their domain, whether that user actually exists or not. This is very bad practice, because it usually means the accepting MTA is a "dumb" hos

Re: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread J B
On 9/21/05, Michael Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Additionally, some mail servers unconditionally accept mail addressed to ANY > username at their domain, whether that user actually exists or not. This is > very > bad practice, because it usually means the accepting MTA is a "dumb" host > th

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Moseby
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Moseby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:21 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex) > > > > > > btw simply checking for a single '@&#x

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Michael Sims
Philip Hallstrom wrote: >>> but you could do what you want to do. however, it's going to be >>> painful if you want it to match the rfc spec... >> >> Really? Why does it need to be painful? I just need to do a >> 'EHLO', 'Mail From:' and 'RCPT to:' and 'QUIT'. It's not going to >> actually send a

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Philip Hallstrom
but you could do what you want to do. however, it's going to be painful if you want it to match the rfc spec... Really? Why does it need to be painful? I just need to do a 'EHLO', 'Mail From:' and 'RCPT to:' and 'QUIT'. It's not going to actually send an email. Seems simple to me. Maybe there

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Murray @ PlanetThoughtful
> > because you should want/need to validate that the address is correct > prior > > to determining if the email server is up running... > > > > the regex function simply allows you to quickly determine if the address > > is > > valid... doens't mean that it's going to go to an actual live user...!

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Moseby
> > btw simply checking for a single '@' with a domain doesn't do > it... what if > the user has '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. will your > regex accept/deny > this??? My function will quickly deny those because the DNS lookup for them will immediately fail. Will your regex deny '[

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Murray @ PlanetThoughtful
> because you should want/need to validate that the address is correct prior > to determining if the email server is up running... > > the regex function simply allows you to quickly determine if the address > is > valid... doens't mean that it's going to go to an actual live user...!! > > btw si

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread bruce
anetThoughtful [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 12:01 PM To: 'Jim Moseby'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex) > > What you have is virtually impossible to determine if all legitimate > possibilities are covere

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Murray @ PlanetThoughtful
> > What you have is virtually impossible to determine if all legitimate > possibilities are covered. > > email validation using regex is a very heavily analyzed subject > > Google "regex email validate" and you'll find loads of expressions. > Look at the Zend article, it provides some insigh

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Moseby
> jim... > > validating email means different things to different people... True, but for the most part people just want to know whether a user has entered a real working email address into their forms. What better test than to try to send an email to it? > > but there's no way you're going

Re: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Ben
Jim Moseby said the following on 09/21/05 11:00: >>>So, what is the general thought about validating email >> >>addresses in this >> >>>manner? >>> >>>JM >> >>Thre is a good reason why virtually everyone uses regex >>patterns for email validating. > > > Excellent start! And that good reason is

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread bruce
a feel for how extensive this task can get... -Original Message- From: Jim Moseby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:01 AM To: 'Al'; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex) > > So, what is the general

RE: [PHP] Re: email validation (no regex)

2005-09-21 Thread Jim Moseby
> > So, what is the general thought about validating email > addresses in this > > manner? > > > > JM > Thre is a good reason why virtually everyone uses regex > patterns for email validating. Excellent start! And that good reason is...? How can regex ensure that the email address that is su