I also agree OOP is not a fad. Its a step up from procedural/including.
And it's still evolving.
While PHP is able to do polymorphism perfectly without OOP/classes,
through "require($plugin/className); $varFunctionName ($p1, $p2,
etc);", My newsscraper works very well that way.
But if you want inh
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 06:49 -0800, Andrew Brookins wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Ben Stones wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> > and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> > PHP scripts
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Ben Stones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
> actual PH
At 11:18 AM -0500 1/20/10, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:11:18AM -0500, tedd wrote:
While I teach OOP, I don't write any OOP for clients. My charge is to
do things quickly and OOP requires a considerable amount of analysis
before creating a solution. In most cases, I don
At 11:31 AM -0500 1/20/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
From: tedd
At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a
problem that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman
w
Hi Bob,
[Couldn't resist jumping into this topic :)]
Even if you look at traditional unix (or similar) kernel internals,
although they tend to use functional paradigms, they do have a
OOP-like flavor. Example:
Everything in a unix system is a 'file' (well not really with
networking logic, but it
From: tedd
> At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
>> Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
>
> I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a
> problem that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman
> who wanted to pick out a blue dress for her
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:11:18AM -0500, tedd wrote:
>
> While I teach OOP, I don't write any OOP for clients. My charge is to
> do things quickly and OOP requires a considerable amount of analysis
> before creating a solution. In most cases, I don't have the time.
> Besides, I'm more of an agi
tedd wrote on 20/01/2010 16:11:
At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a problem
that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman who wanted
to pick out a blue dre
2010/1/20 tedd :
> Also IMO, one can argue the advantages that OOP and Design Patterns bring to
> the table over procedural, but after all is said and done, if you know your
> stuff in procedural, OOP is not going to provide you with much that you
> don't already have.
You also have to consider th
Jay Blanchard wrote:
[snip]
My viewpoint may be jaundiced from having programmed in C++, but the
polymorphism of PHP seems a little crippled by comparison.
[/snip]
I wholeheartedly agree, but I figured out how to work with it in PHP to
my advantage and the advantage of my team. It'll get better.
[snip]
My viewpoint may be jaundiced from having programmed in C++, but the
polymorphism of PHP seems a little crippled by comparison.
[/snip]
I wholeheartedly agree, but I figured out how to work with it in PHP to
my advantage and the advantage of my team. It'll get better...
--
PHP General Mai
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 06:47:04AM -0600, Jay Blanchard wrote:
> [snip]
> > Another advantage of OOP that is difficult to
> > provide via the procedural paradigm is polymorphism.
>
> Agreed. Though the advantages of polymorphism are questionable,
> depending on your viewpoint.
> [/snip]
>
> In a
At 10:26 AM -0500 1/19/10, Bob McConnell wrote:
Some problems will fit into it, some don't.
I teach OOP thinking at the local college and haven't run into a
problem that doesn't fit. For example, in my last class I had a woman
who wanted to pick out a blue dress for her upcoming wedding
anni
[snip]
> Another advantage of OOP that is difficult to
> provide via the procedural paradigm is polymorphism.
Agreed. Though the advantages of polymorphism are questionable,
depending on your viewpoint.
[/snip]
In a loosely typed language like PHP that advantages of polymorphism far
outweigh any
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 01:12:49PM -0500, Robert Cummings wrote:
>
> I would have to agree that OOP is not a fad, perhaps over-hyped at
> times, but definitely not a fad. The argument about class dependencies
> is an invalid argument since functions will also have dependencies on
> other functio
Ashley Sheridan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 12:30 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:11:56PM +, Ben Stones wrote:
Hi,
I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 05:44:56PM +, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>
> Oh, and your flame suit failed because you forgot the quotation marks around
> the attribute values, and you didn't close the tag :p
Dang! I *thought* it felt awfully warm in here.
Paul
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PHP General M
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 12:30 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:11:56PM +, Ben Stones wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> > and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> > PH
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 03:11:56PM +, Ben Stones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
>
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 15:11 +, Ben Stones wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in the
> actual
Ben,
I use a combination of procedural and OOP in my scripts. It depends on
my needs. As an example, I use OOP for gathering order information. I created
a class which gathers all the order information allowing me to easily access
any piece of data in the order. I could do this with
From: Ben Stones
> I've been learning about object oriented programming for the past few
weeks
> and I've understood it pretty well, but I have one question. Usually
with
> PHP scripts I make, all the functionality for a specific page is in
the
> actual PHP file, and I'd use PHP functions in a sep
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 15:39 -0800, Matthew Sims wrote:
> It's a new way of writing out programs that
> many new languages are taking in.
OO programming is definitely not a "new" way of writing programs.
> SIMULA I (1962-65) and Simula 67 (1967) are the two first
> object-oriented languages. Simul
> Hello my friends, how can I get a tutorial or book about Object Oriented
> Programming (OOP) in PHP, if is posible about PHP 5, I am beginning in use
> PEAR, and almost librarys are in OOP. Can you help me?
>
> Thanks :)
>procedural
> =
> "¿Acaso se olvidará la mujer de su bebé, y dejará de
> Hello my friends, how can I get a tutorial or book about Object
> Oriented Programming (OOP) in PHP, if is posible about PHP 5, I am
> beginning in use PEAR, and almost librarys are in OOP. Can you help me?
>
> Thanks :)
>
PEAR is the best thing that happen to PHP even though its a CPAN for PHP
Awesome. I was looking at the Advanced PHP Programming book on amazon,
and so far it looked to be about the only title that covered that.
Thanks for the links to his site / talks, as i'm sure there's some
great info to be gleaned from them too.
I will take a look at picking up his book shortly.
-
--- Eric Marden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm interested in getting up to speed on OOP in PHP can anyone
> recommend some good titles for me to pick up?
George Schlossnagle gave a good talk on this last night at NYPHP. His
slides aren't up yet, but they should appear here soon:
http://www.
Creating functions is a real easy part of programming. Classes are a
differect story (or at least at first). Anyway, If I were you, I would get
Professional PHP4 by Wrox and read the OOP section. I would first start
writting functions.
Think if it like this, if you use exact code twice (you cu
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