Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-22 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
According to historical records, on Thu, 22 Apr 2004 06:48:00 -0400 David T-G wrote about "Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting": >Rene, et al -- > >...and then -{ Rene Brehmer }- said... >% >% According to historical records, on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:39:33 -0400 John >% Nich

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-22 Thread David T-G
Stanley, et al -- ...and then Stanley X. Martin said... % % Why don't you two just email each other instead of including us all in % your little pissing contest? Aw, where's your sense of adventure? Oops; that one's been used already ;-) % % Stanley G. Martin HAND :-D -- David T-G [EMAIL

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-22 Thread David T-G
Rene, et al -- ...and then -{ Rene Brehmer }- said... % % According to historical records, on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:39:33 -0400 John % Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about "Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting": % % >-{ Rene Brehmer }- wrote: % >> At 21:19 19-04-2004, John Niche

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-22 Thread David T-G
Arthur -- ...and then Arthur Pelkey said... % % I am all for adventure when money goes into my wallet, the same cannot % be said for the opposite ;) Being all for money when adventure goes into your wallet? Heck, I'd be all for that ;-) HAND :-D -- David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://justpi

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-21 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
According to historical records, on Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:16:35 +0800 Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about "Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting": >On Tuesday 20 April 2004 23:38, -{ Rene Brehmer }- wrote: > >> I've got mine registered at enom through Westhost, and

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-21 Thread Lester Caine
-{ Rene Brehmer }- wrote: Hmm ... why the heck 65 characters ??? ... Old EGA screens were 80x34 characters, VGA is 80x43 characters ... The reason Usenet standard is 76 chars wide messages (today anyways) is that text-mode readers need the last 4 characters to display window borders and control ch

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread Jason Wong
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 23:38, -{ Rene Brehmer }- wrote: > I've got mine registered at enom through Westhost, and westhost gives me a > registrar interface so I can do whatever I want with my domain ... make new > TLDs, Make new TLDs!?! Is ICANN aware of this ;) -- Jason Wong -> Gremlins Asso

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread Greg Donald
> Why don't you two just email each other instead of including us > all in > your little pissing contest? My initial email to John Nichel concerning his signature _was_ sent privately. He's the one who chose to reply to my private email on the list. I thought the listserve was for PHP discussio

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread Ryan A
ene Brehmer }- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:59 PM > To: PHP Mailing List > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting > > According to historical records, on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:39:33 -0400 John > Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about "Re: [PHP] P

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread Stanley X. Martin
Why don't you two just email each other instead of including us all in your little pissing contest? Stanley G. Martin -Original Message- From: -{ Rene Brehmer }- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:59 PM To: PHP Mailing List Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Ho

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
According to historical records, on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:39:33 -0400 John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about "Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting": >-{ Rene Brehmer }- wrote: >> At 21:19 19-04-2004, John Nichel wrote: >> >>> Greg Donald wrote: >>> &

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread John Nichel
-{ Rene Brehmer }- wrote: At 21:19 19-04-2004, John Nichel wrote: Greg Donald wrote: Your signature is twice the rfc1855 suggested limit. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html - If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer than 4 lines. And the RFC1885 'guidelines' are

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
Yes... Of course you can, it's yours. I've got mine registered at enom through Westhost, and westhost gives me a registrar interface so I can do whatever I want with my domain ... make new TLDs, add/remove pointers, and stuff like that ... not sure what other hosts provide just as simple a way

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
At 21:19 19-04-2004, John Nichel wrote: Greg Donald wrote: Your signature is twice the rfc1855 suggested limit. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html - If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer than 4 lines. And the RFC1885 'guidelines' are also almost 10 years old. I

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread -{ Rene Brehmer }-
Don't know about that particular host either ... But I'm very happy with Westhost (http://westhost.com/) ... I moved over from DotServ ... Nomatter what my question's been, I've gotten response from Westhost within the matter of 30 minutes ... and it's been kind responses too, even when I've cr

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread Ryan A
On 4/20/2004 3:03:36 PM, Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > This was the email I was looking for. I found my answer in this forum. > Come to find out, the owner of Domehost.com was in jail and it was/is a > one man operation. Too bad, everything they had was wor

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-20 Thread Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint]
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RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Justin Palmer
/ Regards, Justin Palmer -Original Message- From: Russell P Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 2:37 PM To: Daniel Clark Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting http://www.networkele

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2004-04-19 Thread Russell P Jones
http://www.networkeleven.com I have been using these folks for about a year and a half now. They have done numerous custom builds for me and will do it within 15 minutes of your request. Pretty amazing customer service. Russ Jones On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Daniel Clark wrote: > I'm using www.phpwebh

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread John Nichel
Greg Donald wrote: On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 15:19, John Nichel wrote: And the RFC1885 'guidelines' are also almost 10 years old. I think most people today have a fast enough connection to handle the 500+/- bytes of my signatureeven if they're still on dial-up. Of course, I could be mistaken

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Greg Donald
On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 15:19, John Nichel wrote: > And the RFC1885 'guidelines' are also almost 10 years old. I think most > people today have a fast enough connection to handle the 500+/- bytes of > my signatureeven if they're still on dial-up. Of course, I could be > mistaken and there ma

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Julien Wadin
Of course You just have to change the DNS of your domain Your hosteur MUST let you change -Message d'origine- De : Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoye : lundi 19 avril 2004 21:35 A : Richard Davey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: [PHP] PHP Web Ho

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread John Nichel
Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint] wrote: I've received a number of suggestions as to where I should go to for my web hosting but it doesn't seem that anyone has any experience with Domehost. This brings up another question; transferring my Domain name. If I do move to another hosting site,

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint]
Stanley G. Martin System Administrator Sprint - EAS Business Intelligence 913.762.8667 913.221.8241 PCS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Richard Davey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting Hel

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Richard Davey
Hello Stanley, Monday, April 19, 2004, 8:14:25 PM, you wrote: MSGCfS> Some time ago I put up a web site on Domehost.com. Everything has been MSGCfS> working great and I had a couple questions for their Tech Support but MSGCfS> haven't received any feedback from them, they don't answer their phon

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread John Nichel
Greg Donald wrote: Your signature is twice the rfc1855 suggested limit. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html - If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer than 4 lines. And the RFC1885 'guidelines' are also almost 10 years old. I think most people today have a fast

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Daniel Clark
I'm using www.phpwebhosting.com > On Mon, 2004-04-19 at 15:14, Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint] > wrote: >> Some time ago I put up a web site on Domehost.com. Everything has been >> working great and I had a couple questions for their Tech Support but >> haven't received any feedback fr

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Vail, Warren
Guess you're not married ;-) Warren Vail -Original Message- From: Arthur Pelkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:54 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting I am all for adventure when money goes into my wallet, the same cannot be

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Arthur Pelkey
I am all for adventure when money goes into my wallet, the same cannot be said for the opposite ;) John Nichel wrote: Arthur Pelkey wrote: any hosting provider that gives me a 500 internal server error when i try to navigate to their packages, will get overlooked by me ;) A, comeon. Whe

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread John Nichel
Arthur Pelkey wrote: any hosting provider that gives me a 500 internal server error when i try to navigate to their packages, will get overlooked by me ;) A, comeon. Where's you sense of adventure? :o :) -- *** * _ __

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Arthur Pelkey
, 2004 3:34 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting any hosting provider that gives me a 500 internal server error when i try to navigate to their packages, will get overlooked by me ;) Edward Peloke wrote: -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Edward Peloke
I just clicked the link and get there fine... -Original Message- From: Arthur Pelkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:34 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting any hosting provider that gives me a 500 internal server error when i try to

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Arthur Pelkey
, April 19, 2004 3:21 PM To: Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting Not sure about that particular host, but if your looking for one with good features, and high reliability, I would suggest Spenix. http://www.spenix.com I asked them a

RE: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Edward Peloke
I use www.ht-tech.net very good and reliable. Eddie -Original Message- From: Adam Voigt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:21 PM To: Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting Not sure about that particular

Re: [PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Adam Voigt
Not sure about that particular host, but if your looking for one with good features, and high reliability, I would suggest Spenix. http://www.spenix.com I asked them a question about my hosting plan (not even a support request) at 9PM and was sent a response within 5 minutes. Very good support, I

[PHP] PHP Web Hosting

2004-04-19 Thread Martin, Stanley G [Contractor for Sprint]
Some time ago I put up a web site on Domehost.com. Everything has been working great and I had a couple questions for their Tech Support but haven't received any feedback from them, they don't answer their phones. Also, it is stated on their site that a company called Wintek Computing took them ov

RE: [PHP] Php web hosting

2002-10-31 Thread Clint Tredway
: Re: [PHP] Php web hosting I've recently had a very good experience with a hosting company, there website is at: http://www.spenix.com/ Great feature set, superior support, and so-far perfect uptime/performance in hardware, software, and bandwidth. I definetly recommend them to anyone lookin

Re: [PHP] Php web hosting

2002-10-31 Thread Adam Voigt
I've recently had a very good experience with a hosting company, there website is at: http://www.spenix.com/ Great feature set, superior support, and so-far perfect uptime/performance in hardware, software, and bandwidth. I definetly recommend them to anyone looking for quality hosting. Adam Voig

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2002-10-31 Thread Richard Archer
y. Regards, Rich -Original Message- From: Steve Jackson [mailto:steve@;webpage.co.uk] Sent: 30 October 2002 6:37 pm To: Php-General Subject: Php web hosting Anyone like to recommend a good host with good uptime for a high traffic site? The host would need excellent technical support as

Re: [PHP] Php web hosting

2002-10-31 Thread -<[ Rene Brehmer ]>-
Hi Steve Jackson, On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:36:50 +0200, you wrote about "[PHP] Php web hosting" something that looked like this: >Anyone like to recommend a good host with good uptime for a high traffic >site? >The host would need excellent technical support as well as be feat

Re: [PHP] Php web hosting

2002-10-30 Thread John Nichel
ED]> To: "Php-General" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: [PHP] Php web hosting Anyone like to recommend a good host with good uptime for a high traffic site? The host would need excellent technical support as well as be feature rich (Multipl

RE: [PHP] Php web hosting

2002-10-30 Thread Edward Peloke
ROTECTED]> To: "Php-General" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: [PHP] Php web hosting Anyone like to recommend a good host with good uptime for a high traffic site? The host would need excellent technical support as well as be feature rich

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2002-10-30 Thread Rick Emery
ED]> To: "Php-General" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: [PHP] Php web hosting Anyone like to recommend a good host with good uptime for a high traffic site? The host would need excellent technical support as well as be feature rich

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2002-10-30 Thread Liam . Gibbs
>Anyone out there have high volume sites with a feature rich hosting solution? I'd be interested, too, but especially in the free ones. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP] Php web hosting

2002-10-30 Thread Steve Jackson
Anyone like to recommend a good host with good uptime for a high traffic site? The host would need excellent technical support as well as be feature rich (Multiple MySQL database support/listserver/SSL support etc.) I have been trying out phpwebhosting.com and they seem very good but I am not happ

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2001-08-09 Thread Richard Lynch
, August 05, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] web hosting > Obviously, dedicated hosting is something that I am considering. But given > that the application I am writing won't be ready for at least 3 months, I'd > feel a bit stupid to spend $300+/month when the only user will be m

RE: [PHP] web hosting

2001-08-05 Thread Kurt Lieber
] > Subject: [PHP] web hosting > > > Since I am tired of switching from one web host to another > because of the limitations that are imposed... does anybody > know of a host provider that supports PHP & MySQL and that, > differently from my current host, will also allow

Re: [PHP] web hosting

2001-08-05 Thread Alex Piaz
At 23:26 4/8/2001 -0500, Damiano Ferrari wrote: >Since I am tired of switching from one web host to another because of the >limitations that are imposed... does anybody know of a host provider that >supports PHP & MySQL and that, differently from my current host, will also >allow me to upload file

Re: [PHP] web hosting

2001-08-05 Thread Damiano Ferrari
ssage- From: Damiano Ferrari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 6:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] web hosting Since I am tired of switching from one web host to another because of the limitations that are imposed... does anybody know of a host provider that

Re: [PHP] web hosting

2001-08-05 Thread Damiano Ferrari
Obviously, dedicated hosting is something that I am considering. But given that the application I am writing won't be ready for at least 3 months, I'd feel a bit stupid to spend $300+/month when the only user will be me and maybe another person. Furthermore, my current web host sys admin stated th

Re: [PHP] web hosting

2001-08-05 Thread Tim
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RE: [PHP] web hosting

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[PHP] Web Hosting That Supports PostgreSQL?

2001-05-11 Thread Jason
Hi, I am looking for a cheap hosting plan that supports PostgreSQL (hopefully 7.1) with PHP4 on a unix platform (BSD prefered, Linux would be OK though). It would be nice if phpPgAdmin was already configured with the account. But if not, that's ok, I can set it up myself. This is only for the dev

RE: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development

2001-01-22 Thread Edin Kadribasic
I use http://www.hostrocket.com/ Edin -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:37 AM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development Any recommendations for a good, savvy host for doing some PHP/MySQL

RE: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development

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2001-01-19 Thread Boaz Yahav
The best around!!! http://www.weberdev.com/phenominet/prices.htm -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:37 AM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development Any recommendations for a good, savvy host for

Re: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development

2001-01-18 Thread Egan
>Any recommendations for a good, savvy host for doing some PHP/MySQL >development? Not looking for a free service, obviously, but > knowledgeable tech support We try. > good mysql/php 4/zend support No Zend yet. > decent mail handling APOP for secure POP password. Sendmail. Not sure what e

RE: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development

2001-01-18 Thread Maxim Maletsky
]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:45 AM To: Chris Lott; PHP General Subject: RE: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development I suggest www.csoft.net They've got great servers. They provide inexpensive PHP/MySQL web hosting. I think you get as many databases as you desire. They also have t

RE: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development

2001-01-18 Thread Tyler Longren
erver. Good stuff. Tyler Longren -Original Message- From: Chris Lott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:37 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development Any recommendations for a good, savvy host for doing some PHP/MySQL development

[PHP] Web hosting for PHP/MySQl development

2001-01-18 Thread Chris Lott
Any recommendations for a good, savvy host for doing some PHP/MySQL development? Not looking for a free service, obviously, but somebody with: knowledgeable tech support, good mysql/php 4/zend support, decent mail handling, and developers tools like: telnet/ssh, emacs, procmail, crontab access, et