Daniel Brown wrote:
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 16:23, Manuel Lemos wrote:
What about you? How many times have you shared your Open Source code?
HA! That's hilarious that you would say that to *me.* I actually
laughed out loud. I'll probably do it a few more times before the day
is out.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 16:23, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>
> What about you? How many times have you shared your Open Source code?
HA! That's hilarious that you would say that to *me.* I actually
laughed out loud. I'll probably do it a few more times before the day
is out.
Well, Manuel, you
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 02:46 PM Daniel Brown said the following:
> My problem is with Manuel's practices of advertising the site.
>
> In all of the years I've been involved with PHP, both officially
> and as a part of the community, all I've seen you (Manuel) contribute
> to the community i
Hello Angus,
on 02/17/2010 09:35 AM Angus Mann said the following:
> I've always found the phpclasses website a bit confusing to navigate and
> I've never had much success finding what I want. But it's free and as a
> non-paying customer I don't feel entitled to complain, when probably a
> bit mor
Normally I would just stay out of a public thread on such a
subject, but Rixham and I had a discussion about the site prior to his
posting here, and I may as well make my point known
My problem - and indeed, it is a problem - is not with the design,
usability, or lack thereof. It's al
This thread's getting a bit tired but here's my $0.02 worth.
I've always found the phpclasses website a bit confusing to navigate and
I've never had much success finding what I want. But it's free and as a
non-paying customer I don't feel entitled to complain, when probably a bit
more work fro
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 03:26 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
Having to register to download classes from phpclasses.org is a
nuisance. Manuel says this is up to the individual developer. This may
be technically true, but Manuel *offers* this as an option. Contrast
Source For
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 02:38 AM Rene Veerman said the following:
> on the other hand, i have received off-list mail about other business
> practices of phpclasses.org that i also would not have chosen myself,
> because i disapprove of them.
Off the list? Curious. Is it my impression or someone is c
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 03:00 AM Shawn McKenzie said the following:
> Well fuck it then. 99% of my post was defending you with one blurb of
> constructive criticism.
I am sorry but I was just clarifying things that I felt it were
inaccurate. I did not meant to upset anybody. If you found reason to
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 02:42 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>> People need to have motivation to do what they do. Authors only submit
>> their packages to PHPClasses site if they gain something from it. What
>> the site provides them is attention.
>
> I know - I'm an author ;) [or was, well s
Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:52:08AM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>> Having to register to download classes from phpclasses.org is a
>>> nuisance. Manuel says this is up to the individual developer. This may
>>> be technically true, but Manuel *offers* this as an opt
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:02:18AM +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
> I use LGPL and i think (hope, actually) that it gives me a free full
> license for any patch i receive.
> That's what several people summarizing it for me have told me.
The multitude of copyright holders on several FOSS projects ha
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:52:08AM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>
> > Having to register to download classes from phpclasses.org is a
> > nuisance. Manuel says this is up to the individual developer. This may
> > be technically true, but Manuel *offers* this as an option. Contrast
> > Source For
Shawn McKenzie wrote:
> Manuel Lemos wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> on 02/17/2010 02:13 AM Shawn McKenzie said the following:
>>> PHP framework to speak of. Manuel has authored most of them and many
>> I suppose you meant that I authored many of the classes. I only
>> submitted about 30 out of more than 2
I use LGPL and i think (hope, actually) that it gives me a free full
license for any patch i receive.
That's what several people summarizing it for me have told me.
But as far as i'm concerned, it goes both ways; any patch is included
in a free update that may be re-hosted.
It's just about who-doe
Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 02/17/2010 02:13 AM Shawn McKenzie said the following:
>> PHP framework to speak of. Manuel has authored most of them and many
>
> I suppose you meant that I authored many of the classes. I only
> submitted about 30 out of more than 2600 classes available subm
Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 05:38:36AM +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
>
>
>
>> but if it turns out he's truely leeching on the work of others (by for
>> instance requiring authors to give him (near-)free exclusive rights or
>> something), then i'd have to switch sides, and say tha
Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 02/17/2010 02:13 AM Shawn McKenzie said the following:
>> PHP framework to speak of. Manuel has authored most of them and many
>
> I suppose you meant that I authored many of the classes. I only
> submitted about 30 out of more than 2600 classes available subm
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 05:38:36AM +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
> but if it turns out he's truely leeching on the work of others (by for
> instance requiring authors to give him (near-)free exclusive rights or
> something), then i'd have to switch sides, and say that authors need
> to be warned of
Rene Veerman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Paul M Foster
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:52:08AM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>>
>>> The winning designing is viewable here but since the author is still
>>> making some changes to fix some issues on pages that were not tested
>>> d
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 02:13 AM Shawn McKenzie said the following:
> PHP framework to speak of. Manuel has authored most of them and many
I suppose you meant that I authored many of the classes. I only
submitted about 30 out of more than 2600 classes available submitted to
the site. 30 may be many
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:52:08AM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>
>>
>> The winning designing is viewable here but since the author is still
>> making some changes to fix some issues on pages that were not tested
>> during the contest, it may n
Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 02/17/2010 12:34 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
in all honesty the following are the sticking point that make it hard
for me to decide if I was right in my earlier response:
1: that the "sign up to get the class" is even part of the equ
> I don't think this will ever happen. I don't submit public code in order
> to receive accolades. If no one ever uses it or thanks me, that's okay.
> It would be *nice* to receive some acknowledgement, but I'm too busy
> writing code to worry about that much.
>
yea, i don't particularly mind not-
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:52:08AM -0200, Manuel Lemos wrote:
>
> The winning designing is viewable here but since the author is still
> making some changes to fix some issues on pages that were not tested
> during the contest, it may not be viewable all the times.
>
> http://www.phpclasses.org/
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 04:28:07AM +0100, Rene Veerman wrote:
>
> I have also put out 3 opensource products, paid hosting cost for it
> even for a while, and have never used ads to support 'm.
> But you know what? Out of thousands of downloads, i never got even a
> single short "thanks" message
Paul M Foster wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:02:09PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote:
>
>> Manuel Lemos wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
in the short term to join m
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 12:34 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>>> in all honesty the following are the sticking point that make it hard
>>> for me to decide if I was right in my earlier response:
>>>
>>> 1: that the "sign up to get the class" is even part of the equation
>> This is another misun
Hello,
on 02/17/2010 01:06 AM Paul M Foster said the following:
> I've given Manuel a hard time in the past about his site design. But
> we'll see what his new design is, when it shows up.
Actually, there was a contest and the users have chosen the winning
design, not me. That was the way to assu
Yeez eh, some of you people here are truely ungrateful for serious
effort spent to save you time.
While i've never found a use for any of the code on phpclasses.org,
and i also would've chosen a slightly different pay-server-rent-model
for the jobs subsection, i can't help but notice the author of
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:02:09PM +, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Manuel Lemos wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
> >> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
> >> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimat
Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 02/16/2010 10:29 PM Nathan Rixham said the following:
Thank you very much for all you're help and sorry you couldn't bleed
some money out of me on this occasion - perhaps you'll manage with
you're next spam to the list.
>>> Personally I regret tha
Hello,
on 02/16/2010 10:54 PM Ashley Sheridan said the following:
> I myself do find the site confusing to navigate, which doesn't always
> help when looking for a PHP class to fit in a project that's already
That is a bit vague as you do not mention explicitly what is confusing.
Sometimes I read
Hello,
on 02/16/2010 10:29 PM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>>> Thank you very much for all you're help and sorry you couldn't bleed
>>> some money out of me on this occasion - perhaps you'll manage with
>>> you're next spam to the list.
>> Personally I regret that you need to be hostile and r
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 00:29 +, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Manuel Lemos wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > on 02/16/2010 08:02 PM Nathan Rixham said the following:
> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimatel
Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 02/16/2010 08:02 PM Nathan Rixham said the following:
I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to
take over the project and "own" it. Remote cont
Hello,
on 02/16/2010 08:02 PM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>>> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
>>> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to
>>> take over the project and "own" it. Remote contract work w/ occasional
>>> m
Nathan Rixham wrote:
You make every interaction with your site a horrible, painful
interaction that is purely there to get as many adverts as you can in
front of people, so that you can bleed every cent possible from the hard
work and effort of PHP developers and innocent users. In short, you t
Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Manuel Lemos wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>>> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
>>> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to
>>> take over the project and
Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
>> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
>> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to
>> take over the project and "own" it. Remote contract w
Hello,
on 02/15/2010 11:37 AM Nathan Rixham said the following:
> I need to find a skilled PHP dev, UK based, with long term availability,
> in the short term to join me on a project and ultimately be prepared to
> take over the project and "own" it. Remote contract work w/ occasional
> meetings
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