Hello
I notice both my kids struggling with either C or Python as first
programming languages. I believe both are unsuitable for use as
introductory languages to college juniors.
Python IMHO is too advanced, too rich, weird indentation rules, no
simple for loop etc.
C, ok, punishing little
Am Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 04:56:18PM +0200 schrieb Achilleas Mantzios - cloud:
> Python IMHO is too advanced, too rich,
Python _is_ powerful but it needn't be difficult.
> weird indentation rules
A matter of taste IMO.
> no simple for loop
Really ?
Python 3.11.2 (main, Mar 13 2023, 12:
Bug fixes for problems (like slow queries) you didn't realize you had, or
would have if you later implemented a feature with the bug. (For example,
an aggravating weekly manual activity disappeared when I was allowed to
update from 9.6.6 to 9.6.24.)
And, of course, security bug fixes, Won't you
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:56, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud
> wrote:
> So, I ask, have there been any efforts to bring PL/PGSQL to the terminal?
Strictly speaking, of course, you can use PL/pgSQL from the terminal already:
just use psql, connect to the database, and create and run functions and
On 3/7/24 07:47, David Gauthier wrote:
Please reply to list also.
Ccing list
>>I would definitely read the release notes for 12.0, 13.0, 14.0 and 15.0.
Check ! None of the breaking changes affect me.
>>How are and from where are you installing the Postgres package(s)?
IT does the installs
čt 7. 3. 2024 v 16:59 odesílatel Christophe Pettus
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> > On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:56, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud <
> a.mantz...@cloud.gatewaynet.com> wrote:
> > So, I ask, have there been any efforts to bring PL/PGSQL to the terminal?
>
> Strictly speaking, of course, you can use PL/pgSQL
On 3/7/24 06:56, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud wrote:
Hello
I notice both my kids struggling with either C or Python as first
programming languages. I believe both are unsuitable for use as
introductory languages to college juniors.
What the cool kids are using:)?
https://www.rust-lang.org/
h
> On 7 Mar 2024, at 4:56 PM, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud
> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I notice both my kids struggling with either C or Python as first programming
> languages. I believe both are unsuitable for use as introductory languages to
> college juniors.
https://scratch.mit.edu/ would be
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 11:26 AM Pavel Stehule wrote:
> čt 7. 3. 2024 v 16:59 odesílatel Christophe Pettus napsal:
>> > On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:56, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud
>> > wrote:
>> > So, I ask, have there been any efforts to bring PL/PGSQL to the terminal?
>>
>> Strictly speaking, of cour
Στις 7/3/24 17:13, ο/η Karsten Hilbert έγραψε:
Am Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 04:56:18PM +0200 schrieb Achilleas Mantzios - cloud:
Python IMHO is too advanced, too rich,
Python _is_ powerful but it needn't be difficult.
weird indentation rules
A matter of taste IMO.
no simple for loop
Really ?
Στις 7/3/24 18:25, ο/η Pavel Stehule έγραψε:
čt 7. 3. 2024 v 16:59 odesílatel Christophe Pettus
napsal:
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:56, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud
wrote:
> So, I ask, have there been any efforts to bring PL/PGSQL to the
terminal?
Strictly speaking, of cou
Στις 7/3/24 18:44, ο/η Robert Treat έγραψε:
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 11:26 AM Pavel Stehule wrote:
čt 7. 3. 2024 v 16:59 odesílatel Christophe Pettus napsal:
On Mar 7, 2024, at 06:56, Achilleas Mantzios - cloud
wrote:
So, I ask, have there been any efforts to bring PL/PGSQL to the terminal?
Am Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 08:04:21PM +0200 schrieb Achilleas Mantzios:
> > Python 3.11.2 (main, Mar 13 2023, 12:18:29) [GCC 12.2.0] on linux
> > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> > >>> for idx in [0,1,2,3]: print(idx)
>
> Dude this is like saying th
On 3/7/24 10:13, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
Στις 7/3/24 18:44, ο/η Robert Treat έγραψε:
I am not talking for fun. I am talking about the future programmers of
this world. Teaching Python or C to them upon arrival to the classes
seems so wrong in every aspect.
Seems to me you need to tackle
Στις 7/3/24 21:29, ο/η Adrian Klaver έγραψε:
On 3/7/24 10:13, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
Στις 7/3/24 18:44, ο/η Robert Treat έγραψε:
I am not talking for fun. I am talking about the future programmers
of this world. Teaching Python or C to them upon arrival to the
classes seems so wrong in
On 3/7/24 12:20, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
Στις 7/3/24 21:29, ο/η Adrian Klaver έγραψε:
On 3/7/24 10:13, Achilleas Mantzios wrote:
Στις 7/3/24 18:44, ο/η Robert Treat έγραψε:
I am not talking for fun. I am talking about the future programmers
of this world. Teaching Python or C to them upo
Something interesting and not sure if expected behaviour is as below. We
are confused here.
In the below example we created two partitioned tables on timestamptz type
columns with different time zones and the child partitions are created
appropriately with boundaries as one mid night to next mid n
On 2024-03-06 12:45:33 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> =*# select pg_column_size(t2.*) from t2;
> pg_column_size
>
> 53
> (1 row)
>
> That's an additional 21 bytes, which is really quite a lot. What's
> included in those 21 bytes are
[...]
> the type information (typ
"Peter J. Holzer" writes:
> On 2024-03-06 12:45:33 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> That's an additional 21 bytes, which is really quite a lot. What's
>> included in those 21 bytes are
>> [...]
>> the type information (typmod if there is one and the OID of the
>> composite type),
> Is it necessary
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