Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Daniel Baktiar
I do not see this as a threat at all. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:10 AM Michael Nolan wrote: > Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the open > source community? > -- > Mike Nolan > >

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Justin Clift
On 2018-06-07 12:47, Vik Fearing wrote: On 07/06/18 13:46, Thiemo Kellner wrote: Zitat von Achilleas Mantzios : Who hasn't missed sourceforge ? or ... freshmeat while we'are at it :) I am sticking to sourceforge still. I never understood what people made leave it. For many people, this i

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Adrian Klaver
On 06/07/2018 06:54 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 16:04 +0200, Thiemo Kellner, NHC Barhufpflege wrote: Zitat von Vik Fearing : For many people, this is why sourceforge died: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Project_hijackings_and_bu ndled_malware Wow! I missed t

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 16:04 +0200, Thiemo Kellner, NHC Barhufpflege wrote: > Zitat von Vik Fearing : > > For many people, this is why sourceforge died: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Project_hijackings_and_bu > > ndled_malware > Wow! I missed that completely. This is grave. That was

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Thiemo Kellner, NHC Barhufpflege
Zitat von Vik Fearing : For many people, this is why sourceforge died: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Project_hijackings_and_bundled_malware Wow! I missed that completely. This is grave. This message was sent using IM

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Michael Paquier
On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 11:57:06AM +0200, Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais wrote: > How do you backup your projects issues on github? Using the API with some > loops? I personally don't care much about this part. As long as the code survives.. -- Michael signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Vik Fearing
On 07/06/18 13:46, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Zitat von Achilleas Mantzios : > >> Who hasn't missed sourceforge ? or ... freshmeat while we'are at it :) > > I am sticking to sourceforge still. I never understood what people made > leave it. For many people, this is why sourceforge died: https://en.

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 13:46 +0200, Thiemo Kellner wrote: > Zitat von Achilleas Mantzios : > > Who hasn't missed sourceforge ? or ... freshmeat while we'are at it > > :) > I am sticking to sourceforge still. I never understood what people   > made leave it. New-and-shiney! I've been involved in O

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Thiemo Kellner
Zitat von Achilleas Mantzios : Who hasn't missed sourceforge ? or ... freshmeat while we'are at it :) I am sticking to sourceforge still. I never understood what people made leave it. I was investigating a bit if I should move on to github too but I do not remember what prevented me from d

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Linehan
> Of course, this only holds for the very relaxed definition of open > source. RMS would/will be using this as a clear example of MS destroying > open source and the weakness of the general open source movement when it > fails to emphasise freedom. He's already said that GitHub isn't appropriate

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
On 07/06/2018 13:56, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 11:54 +0100, Paul Linehan wrote: Only to the extent that GitHub was a threat before this. They never embraced Open Source! They cynically portrayed themselves as the developer's best pal when, in fact, they are/were nothing mo

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2018-06-07 at 11:54 +0100, Paul Linehan wrote: > Only to the extent that GitHub was a threat before this. They never > embraced Open Source! > They cynically portrayed themselves as the developer's best pal when, > in fact, they are/were nothing more and nothing less than another > commeric

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Linehan
> Sourceforge seems to be out of favor, too, so are there any open source > platforms that provide services that sourceforge and github do? In a word: GitLab! Pól... > Rich

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Linehan
> Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the open > source community? Only to the extent that GitHub was a threat before this. They never embraced Open Source! They cynically portrayed themselves as the developer's best pal when, in fact, they are/were nothing more and

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-07 Thread Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:22:02 +0900 Michael Paquier wrote: [...] > I do so for all my stuff on github for example. How do you backup your projects issues on github? Using the API with some loops?

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Michael Paquier
On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 08:44:37PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote: > I have few projects there - Orafce, plpgsql_check, and pspg. I hope so > these projects are well protected by BSD licence - and distributed > redundant nature of git. I hope so there is not reason for panic this > moment. I have not a

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Tim Cross
Joshua D. Drake writes: > On 06/04/2018 10:31 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> >>> No but it does show why using non open source platforms for open source >>> projects is an inherently bad idea. >> >> Joshua, >> >> Sourceforge seems to be out of favor,

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Pavel Stehule
2018-06-04 20:34 GMT+02:00 Michael Nolan : > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Michael Nolan writes: >> > Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the >> open >> > source community? >> >> A fair question, but one that seems entirely off-topic for

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Michael Nolan
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Michael Nolan writes: > > Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the > open > > source community? > > A fair question, but one that seems entirely off-topic for the Postgres > lists, since we don't depend on GitHub. (

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 06/04/2018 10:31 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Joshua D. Drake wrote: No but it does show why using non open source platforms for open source projects is an inherently bad idea. Joshua,   Sourceforge seems to be out of favor, too,  so are there any open source platforms tha

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Justin Clift
On 4 Jun 2018, at 18:31, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> No but it does show why using non open source platforms for open source >> projects is an inherently bad idea. > > Joshua, > > Sourceforge seems to be out of favor, too, so are there any open source

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Joshua D. Drake wrote: No but it does show why using non open source platforms for open source projects is an inherently bad idea. Joshua, Sourceforge seems to be out of favor, too, so are there any open source platforms that provide services that sourceforge and github

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Tom Lane
Michael Nolan writes: > Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the open > source community? A fair question, but one that seems entirely off-topic for the Postgres lists, since we don't depend on GitHub. (And that's a thing for which I'm very glad today.)

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On 06/04/2018 10:10 AM, Michael Nolan wrote: Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the open source community? No but it does show why using non open source platforms for open source projects is an inherently bad idea. /me stumbles off to the Postgres slack channel

Re: Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:10 PM Michael Nolan wrote: > Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the open > source community? > ​I don't know, but my intent is to abandon GitHub entirely. Too bad, because I like to use it more to post "Gists" and send the URL to someone,

Microsoft buys GitHub, is this a threat to open-source

2018-06-04 Thread Michael Nolan
Microsoft has bought GitHub for $7.5 billion, is this a threat to the open source community? -- Mike Nolan