Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-21 Thread frank+pdns--- via Pdns-users
> On 21 May 2019, at 12:06, Tobi wrote: > > Hi Frank > > fully agree that this is very very very ugly. We never considered this a > "longterm" solution but just as a temporary fix until the problem is > solved upstream. > >> I managed an MSP for more than 15 years, we moved a lot of email as

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-21 Thread Tobi
Hi Frank fully agree that this is very very very ugly. We never considered this a "longterm" solution but just as a temporary fix until the problem is solved upstream. > I managed an MSP for more than 15 years, we moved a lot of email as > well, so I feel your pain. then you know its very hard t

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-21 Thread frank+pdns--- via Pdns-users
Hi Tobi, I managed an MSP for more than 15 years, we moved a lot of email as well, so I feel your pain. However, in all cases (about a hand-full that I can recall over that time) where we had real reachability issues, we routed the other AS using a different network path. In BGP speak: we pref

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread Tobi
Brian > In any case, it's the responsibility of the authoritative domain owner > to host their domain on at least two different ASes (RFC 2182), if > they care about people being able to resolve it. Full agree with that, but our customer is not interested why he cannot send a mail to the other en

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread Brian Candler
On 20/05/2019 17:57, Tobi wrote: - BGP routing issues (ex from Provider 1 you can reach target and from provider 2 not) That happens, but very rarely in my experience.  In any case, it's the responsibility of the authoritative domain owner to host their domain on at least two different ASes

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread frank+pdns--- via Pdns-users
Hi Tobi, Nico is completely right: it sounds like the wrong solution for your problem. If your provider has issues reaching that destination, then the solution would be to have your provider fix the reachability issue. Note that the second reason you mention (src address rate limiting) won’t be

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread Tobi
Nico we know of the following reasons from our own experience: - BGP routing issues (ex from Provider 1 you can reach target and from provider 2 not) - per SRC limits on the recipient side and there for sure are many other reasons we have not experienced (yet) :-) Thats why we thought it would be

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread Nico CARTRON
Hi, On 20-May-2019 16:04 CEST, wrote: > > wonder if the following is possible somehow with pdns-recursor. Our main > > recursor A sometimes has problems talking to some auth servers. In the > > same time another recursor B in our network still can talk to such an > > auth server. > > > > So we

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread Tobi
Hi Frank sorry I'm quite new to dnsdist :-) I thought that a rule like this could work > newServer({address='XX.YY.ZZ.ZZ:53', pool='remote'}) > addAction({"IP1", "IP2"}, PoolAction('remote')) IP1 and IP2 are the IP addresses of the two authorative nameservers for the zone in my tests. XX.YY.ZZ

Re: [Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread frank+pdns--- via Pdns-users
> wonder if the following is possible somehow with pdns-recursor. Our main > recursor A sometimes has problems talking to some auth servers. In the > same time another recursor B in our network still can talk to such an > auth server. > > So we wonder if we could somehow send queries for such auth

[Pdns-users] pdns-recursor delegate some queries to another recursor

2019-05-20 Thread Tobi
Hi list wonder if the following is possible somehow with pdns-recursor. Our main recursor A sometimes has problems talking to some auth servers. In the same time another recursor B in our network still can talk to such an auth server. So we wonder if we could somehow send queries for such auth se