Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-13 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2016-11-13 13:07, Rhialto wrote: > On Sat 12 Nov 2016 at 16:58:32 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: >> ...and in case there is interest in it, the attached patch for Pan does >> just that - I've tested it against what I believe is the server the OP >> is referring to, in any case it is one that does re

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-13 Thread Rhialto
On Sat 12 Nov 2016 at 16:58:32 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: > ...and in case there is interest in it, the attached patch for Pan does > just that - I've tested it against what I believe is the server the OP > is referring to, in any case it is one that does return 500 for MODE > READER. How likely i

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-12 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2016-11-12 16:58, Per Hedeland wrote: > > ...and in case there is interest in it, the attached patch for Pan does > just that - I've tested it against what I believe is the server the OP > is referring to, in any case it is one that does return 500 for MODE > READER. Now also attached to https

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-12 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2016-11-12 15:43, Per Hedeland wrote: > > And in the specific case of the MODE READER command, with the specific > reply code 500 - which means "Command not understood" - it is useful, > and can even be considered reasonable, to ignore the reply. The client > doesn't *need* any result from the

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-12 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2016-11-11 15:38, DLSauers wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:08:31 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: > >> Understood. A 5xx reply code indicates a fatal error, and the client >> giving up on the server and disconnecting is the "normal"/default >> behavior > > Pan and KNode do this... > > The monkey i

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-11 Thread Per Hedeland
On 2016-11-11 05:17, DLSauers wrote: > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:12:16 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: > [snip] >> And regarding Duncan's mention >> of what is known as "Postel's principle", a resonable application of >> that is that if you are an NNTP server that only provides reader >> service, and a

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-10 Thread Lacrocivious Acrophosist
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:59:55 +, Lacrocivious Acrophosist wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:52:51 +, Lacrocivious Acrophosist wrote: > > Dammit. I misspelled 'pleistocene'. How can I live with this shame? Snakes on everything. I also said 'mikedld used it for a bit', he being a dev on anot

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-10 Thread Lacrocivious Acrophosist
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:52:51 +, Lacrocivious Acrophosist wrote: Dammit. I misspelled 'pleistocene'. How can I live with this shame? -- Lacrocivious Acrophosist Twice as crazy as I would be, if I was half as crazy as I am. ___ Pan-users mailing l

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-10 Thread Lacrocivious Acrophosist
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 04:19:10 +, Lacrocivious Acrophosist wrote: Should have put this in my initial reply. Petr Kovar and I managed some years ago to exhume the Pan IRC channel from pliestocene sediment, and I got FreeNode to give me chanop for it, so the Pan IRC channel exists at irc.freeno

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-10 Thread Lacrocivious Acrophosist
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 23:12:16 +0100, Per Hedeland wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for top-posting, but I'm afraid my normal interleaved-style reply > wouldn't be really useful here... > > As a bit of background, NNTP hasn't had much interest from the Internet > standards groups for most of its existence,

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-10 Thread Per Hedeland
Hi, Sorry for top-posting, but I'm afraid my normal interleaved-style reply wouldn't be really useful here... As a bit of background, NNTP hasn't had much interest from the Internet standards groups for most of its existence, and thus implementations have made the extensions they needed when they

Re: [Pan-users] RFC versus sever versus client

2016-11-09 Thread Duncan
DLSauers posted on Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:16:58 + as excerpted: > I am looking to have a definitive PER *_RFC_* answer that a client > regardless of SERVER should issue MODE READER, get 500, done, click! Or > do what one client does, ignore the 500 issue LIST and go on I'll punt for the mome