Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-10 Thread Kurt Schilling
Duncan wrote: Kurt Schilling posted on Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:46:02 -0400 as excerpted: Yes, NSR is still alive. The newsgroup tends to be relatively active on a day to day basis. However, the regulars tend to be pretty much "anti-PAN" since the re-write to C++ primarily because of the lack of gra

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-10 Thread Duncan
Kurt Schilling posted on Sun, 10 Jul 2011 04:46:02 -0400 as excerpted: > Yes, NSR is still alive. The newsgroup tends to be relatively active on > a day to day basis. However, the regulars tend to be pretty much > "anti-PAN" since the re-write to C++ primarily because of the lack of > granular sco

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-10 Thread Kurt Schilling
Duncan wrote: Beartooth posted on Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:29:59 + as excerpted: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 07:03:08 +, Duncan wrote: [snipperoo] Note also that at least back in 2003, according to the headers in the document (which is in the form of a news post) the GNKSA was being posted

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-09 Thread Duncan
Beartooth posted on Sat, 09 Jul 2011 21:29:59 + as excerpted: > On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 07:03:08 +, Duncan wrote: > [snipperoo] >> Note also that at least back in 2003, according to the headers in the >> document (which is in the form of a news post) the GNKSA was being >> posted monthly

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-09 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 07:03:08 +, Duncan wrote: [snipperoo] > Note also that at least back in 2003, according to the headers in the > document (which is in the form of a news post) the GNKSA was being > posted monthly (first Sunday) to a number of newsgroups, including > news.software.rea

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-08 Thread Duncan
Steven D'Aprano posted on Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:19:36 +1000 as excerpted: > Beartooth wrote: > >> But I do claim the blind hen's occasional grain of corn : we need >> to optimize against the likely abuses of the twenty-teens, whatever we >> can guess of those. > > I don't know what this means

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Beartooth wrote: But I do claim the blind hen's occasional grain of corn : we need to optimize against the likely abuses of the twenty-teens, whatever we can guess of those. I don't know what this means. Hesitant, second-hand example : I've encountered intelligent posters on a wide varie

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-08 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/08/2011 12:03 AM, Duncan wrote: Obviously, my take as stated above was rather different. The way I read it, he was no longer the least bit interested in being involved, while you obviously believe he'd be willing to do an update, at least. Somewhere in the middle is another way. I made

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-08 Thread Duncan
Joe Zeff posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:43:13 -0700 as excerpted: > I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. In > part, it says: > > Actually, I consider the GNKSA a historic document, to be read in the > context of its own time, rather than a useful guideline for today

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-07 Thread Duncan
Beartooth posted on Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:10:27 + as excerpted: > Yup; and I shudda thunka that, too. I do have experience with a big list > (ca. 4000 subscribers in my years), though none so humbling & gratifying > as yours. What's more, 90+ % of them were Alpha Plus when they did break > Inter

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-07 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:09:56 +, Duncan wrote: > I take it that by groups of groups, you're talking about specific > (private, special-purpose, like gmane, not generally distributed news > like USENET in general) news servers. Come to think of it, yes, What any "group of groups" has

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-06 Thread James Hawtin
Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:38:29 -0700, walt wrote: [] Um, crap, I just sent an email to Jeroen at gnksa.org about exactly the same subject. I'll bet he's already cursing the pan email list for causing him headaches. Maybe not. Look at part of his reply to J

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-06 Thread Duncan
Beartooth posted on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:24:54 + as excerpted: > What does all this add up to? I conjecture that those of us who > make serious use of any newsreader do most of our reading in a few > groups of groups (primarily gmane, plus news.grc et al.), *which we > probably have largely in

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-05 Thread Beartooth
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:38:29 -0700, walt wrote: [] > Um, crap, I just sent an email to Jeroen at gnksa.org about exactly the > same subject. I'll bet he's already cursing the pan email list for > causing him headaches. Maybe not. Look at part of his reply to Joe Zeff : I don

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon July 4 2011, Duncan wrote: > > I don't believe anyone's proposing removing that bit of the config. > > All HM's commit did was up the maximum number the spinner would go up > > to (if you type in a larger number, it sets the largest allowed), > > from 4 to 20. > > Seems I'm doing incomplet

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 02:51:06 + as excerpted: > Lacrocivious Acrophosist posted on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 01:36:41 + as > excerpted: > >> That said, it makes sense to me to have the number of connections >> accessible to the gui client without resorting to manual edits. If any >> o

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Duncan
Lacrocivious Acrophosist posted on Tue, 05 Jul 2011 01:36:41 + as excerpted: > That said, it makes sense to me to have the number of connections > accessible to the gui client without resorting to manual edits. If any > of us notice that 20 connections cause Pan to no long 'play nice' with > o

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Lacrocivious Acrophosist
Joe Zeff writes: > > I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. In > part, it says: > > Actually, I consider the GNKSA a historic document, to be read in the > context of its own time, rather than a useful guideline for today's > practice. It played its part, but t

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread walt
On 07/04/2011 01:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. Um, crap, I just sent an email to Jeroen at gnksa.org about exactly the same subject. I'll bet he's already cursing the pan email list for causing him headaches. ___

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread David Kelly
On Jul 4, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Duncan wrote: > Joe Zeff posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:43:13 -0700 as excerpted: > >> I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. In >> part, it says: > > I'll have to think about the response some and digest it, before updating > my opinion

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/04/2011 01:52 PM, Duncan wrote: Joe Zeff posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:43:13 -0700 as excerpted: I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. In part, it says: I'll have to think about the response some and digest it, before updating my opinion accordingly, but I

Re: [Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Duncan
Joe Zeff posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:43:13 -0700 as excerpted: > I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. In > part, it says: I'll have to think about the response some and digest it, before updating my opinion accordingly, but I'm glad you made this a new thread. I

[Pan-users] GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Joe Zeff
I've just received a response to my email about updating the GNKSA. In part, it says: Actually, I consider the GNKSA a historic document, to be read in the context of its own time, rather than a useful guideline for today's practice. It played its part, but to me its relevance is over. Usen