On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:39:42AM +0200, Nicolas Richard wrote:
>Le 10/08/2011 13:25, Mark S Bilk a écrit :
>>...
>...
>btw, did you try running "pan --debug" ?
Wow, thanks, this is extremely helpful!
It really shows what Pan is doing! For example, If the body
of one of the problem articles is
Mark S Bilk posted on Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:23:02 -0700 as excerpted:
> Duncan, many thanks for this info! Just what I need for easing into
> this debugging session. It's going to be a fun night -- only one, I
> hope!
... As a pan user you should know better than to top post, and you /did/
edit
Le 10/08/2011 13:25, Mark S Bilk a écrit :
Nico, thanks! Am I correct in thinking that you downloaded
the 0.135 source files from git.gnome.org and built the
executable on your machine?
Almost. I 'git pull'ed the repository and built the executable on my
machine through the use of portage sys
Duncan, many thanks for this info! Just what I need for
easing into this debugging session. It's going to be
a fun night -- only one, I hope!
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 03:41:10AM +, Duncan wrote:
>Mark S Bilk posted on Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:14:38 -0700 as excerpted:
>
>> (But KNode has no trou
Mark S Bilk posted on Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:14:38 -0700 as excerpted:
> (But KNode has no trouble using Astraweb. Is there more than one
> protocol for requesting an article from a server? Will I have to dig
> out Ethereal and spend a week decoding hex in network packets? Aggh!)
Yes.
Messages c
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 03:11:12PM -0700, walt wrote:
>On 08/09/2011 10:20 PM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>
>> Subject: mb1
>> Subject: Re: mb2
>> Subject: Re: mb3
>> Subject: Re: mb4
>> Subject: Re: mb5 fleeb
>>
>> Knode can read all of them. Pan can read 1 and 2, but originally
>> could only see the
On 08/09/2011 10:20 PM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> I posted several articles to alt.test, which KNode can read
> but Pan can't. I'm using Pan 0.135 from the OpenSuse Linux 11.4
> 32-bit software repository. My Usenet source is Astraweb.
>
> The five posts in the sequence are similar. The last one i
I'm posting this back to the list so others can see the results and
your question about headers. I always just let it grab all of them.
Now you (and other AW users) can tell AstraWeb that their server is
munching some articles in a way that some nntp clients can't handle.
Gerald
On Wed, 10 Aug 2
I just set up a temporary test account for Mark that uses GigaNews
servers so he can directly determine if it is server or distro related.
I can see the articles fine using 0.132 on a debian 5 (Lenny) machine.
Gerald
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:48:30 -0700
Mark S Bilk wrote:
> SciFi, thanks for the
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:23:37PM +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>I posted several articles to alt.test, which KNode can read but Pan
>>can't. I'm using Pan 0.135 from the OpenSuse Linux 11.4 32-bit
>>software repository. My Usenet source is Astraweb.
>
>Hahah! I reported thi
SciFi, thanks for the report! And your User-Agent header
line is truly magnificent!
By the help of the very kind people on this list, the problem
has now been almost certainly identified as occurring only
with Pan and Astraweb. I'm submitting a trouble report to
Astraweb to ask if they've en
Hi,
I am able to see all 5 headers /and/ bodies.
Using Giganews here.
I have built & am running imhotep82's latest GIT version --
since I'm posting this message via Gmane,
the User-Agent header line should have the details of this build.
:)
___
Pan-
Mark S Bilk wrote:
I posted several articles to alt.test, which KNode can read
but Pan can't. I'm using Pan 0.135 from the OpenSuse Linux 11.4
32-bit software repository. My Usenet source is Astraweb.
The five posts in the sequence are similar. The last one is
included in its entirety at t
Mark S Bilk wrote:
I posted several articles to alt.test, which KNode can read
but Pan can't. I'm using Pan 0.135 from the OpenSuse Linux 11.4
32-bit software repository. My Usenet source is Astraweb.
The five posts in the sequence are similar. The last one is
included in its entirety at t
David Shochat wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
I hope someone with Usenet access can try to read those articles
with Pan. Just go to alt.test and entermbin the
right-hand search box. They're easy to find.
I see the bodies of all of them, using 0.135 (Mac Sn
Mark S Bilk wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:44:10AM +0200, andreas nastke wrote:
just tried an old 0.119 windows version which happened to be installed
in the office and all five article-bodies are displayed (using giganews)
Thanks! There's a datapoint! I suspected Astraweb, but KNode
get
Duncan wrote:
When you get a post that pan either won't download or simply refuses to
display the normal way, context-click on it in the header list, and
choose "read article". That has always forced the download (if
necessary) and displayed the message for me, here.
Tried it, doesn't work
t;>To: Claudie Dill ; pan-users@nongnu.org
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:37 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Articles Pan Can't Read
>>
>>Oh, thank you, Claudie! I thought it was only me!
>>Just to be clear, are you saying that you could not even
Mark S Bilk wrote:
I posted several articles to alt.test, which KNode can read
but Pan can't. I'm using Pan 0.135 from the OpenSuse Linux 11.4
32-bit software repository. My Usenet source is Astraweb.
Hahah! I reported this same thing a few weeks back... search the
archives for a post "Emp
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 07:18:23AM -0400, David Shochat wrote:
>No problem reading all 5 using 0.135 on Ubuntu 11.04. Can you try a
>different server?
Thanks, David! And you're right -- I can read all 5 just fine from
blocknews.net using 0.135!
Claudie, which news server are you using?
(But KN
Oh, thank you, Claudie! I thought it was only me!
Just to be clear, are you saying that you could not even see
the headers of messages 3, 4, and 5 in Pan's header pane?
Here are the Subject lines of the 5 messages in alt.test again:
Subject: mb1
Subject: Re: mb2
Subject: Re: mb3
Subject: Re:
Nico, thanks! Am I correct in thinking that you downloaded
the 0.135 source files from git.gnome.org and built the
executable on your machine?
Which Linux distro are you running? And is it 32 or 64 bit?
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 01:03:56PM +0200, Nicolas Richard wrote:
>Le 10/08/2011 12:08, Mar
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> I guess what's needed now are Pan 0.135 trials in a couple of
> different Linux distros, including OpenSuse. I'm going to ask
> in a couple of places, but if anyone on the list here can do it,
> it would be great.
>
No problem reading all 5 us
Messages 1 and 2 look normal; 2, 3, &4 no headers or body.
I'm using .135 compiled and running on Mint 11 (amd64 version).
>
>From: Mark S Bilk
>To: pan-users@nongnu.org
>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [Pan-users]
Le 10/08/2011 12:08, Mark S Bilk a écrit :
Now if someone can try reading the articles using Pan 0.135
(not from OpenSuse), that should differentiate between (1) a bug
in 0.135, and (2) something wrong with the 0.135 build in the
OpenSuse repo or with my setup.
No problem reading them here (usi
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 06:12:34AM -0400, David Shochat wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>>
>> I hope someone with Usenet access can try to read those articles
>> with Pan. Just go to alt.test and enter mb in the
>> right-hand search box. They're easy to find.
>>
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
> I hope someone with Usenet access can try to read those articles
> with Pan. Just go to alt.test and enter mb in the
> right-hand search box. They're easy to find.
>
I see the bodies of all of them, using 0.135 (Mac Snow Leopard/MacPo
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:44:10AM +0200, andreas nastke wrote:
>just tried an old 0.119 windows version which happened to be installed
>in the office and all five article-bodies are displayed (using giganews)
Thanks! There's a datapoint! I suspected Astraweb, but KNode
gets all five article bo
just tried an old 0.119 windows version which happened to be installed
in the office and all five article-bodies are displayed (using giganews)
Mark S Bilk schrieb:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 05:38:28AM +, Jim Henderson wrote:
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:20:56 -0700, Mark S Bilk wrote:
Knode can
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 06:32:58AM +, Duncan wrote:
>...
>I'm guessing you (Mark) somehow tickled pan's binary detection algorithm
>...
>When you get a post that pan either won't download or simply refuses to
>display the normal way, context-click on it in the header list, and
I figured tha
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 05:38:28AM +, Jim Henderson wrote:
>On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:20:56 -0700, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> Knode can read all of them. Pan can read 1 and 2, but originally could
>> only see the headers of 3, 4, and 5. It said each of those contained
>> over 800 lines.
>
>I haven'
Jim Henderson posted on Wed, 10 Aug 2011 05:38:28 + as excerpted:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:20:56 -0700, Mark S Bilk wrote:
>
>> Knode can read all of them. Pan can read 1 and 2, but originally could
>> only see the headers of 3, 4, and 5. It said each of those contained
>> over 800 lines.
>
On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 22:20:56 -0700, Mark S Bilk wrote:
> Knode can read all of them. Pan can read 1 and 2, but originally could
> only see the headers of 3, 4, and 5. It said each of those contained
> over 800 lines.
I haven't got a 'normal' USENET server in my servers list, but something
I've
I posted several articles to alt.test, which KNode can read
but Pan can't. I'm using Pan 0.135 from the OpenSuse Linux 11.4
32-bit software repository. My Usenet source is Astraweb.
The five posts in the sequence are similar. The last one is
included in its entirety at the end of this messag
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