Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.152

2022-11-16 Thread Maurice via Pan-users
On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 20:11:37 +, Brian Morrison wrote: > ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr Well, I couldn't get hold of autogen.sh, Brian, but many thanks for your info. Will reyurn to the fray soon. It would really be great if I could install a Pan RPM. Regards, -- /\/\aurice

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.152

2022-11-13 Thread Maurice via Pan-users
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:56:17 +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > You can get Pan 0.152 release tarball on Gnome's gitlab How can one obtain an RPM install on a system that uses he RPM form? Fingers crossed.. -- /\/\aurice (89) (Replace "nomail.afraid" by "bcs" to reply by email) -- /

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.149

2021-12-30 Thread Maurice via Pan-users
On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 15:08:43 +0100, Petr Kovar wrote: > the correct way is to download the src.rpm and and run "rpmbuild > --rebuild" against it. > > Might or might not work depending on the package naming conventions in > your distro, etc. Installing /home/mab/Download/pan-0.147-1.fc36.src.rpm

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.149

2021-12-29 Thread Maurice via Pan-users
On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 16:42:28 +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > May be there: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pan Ah, yes - found that, but install failed due to "unsatisfied libc.so.6 (GLIB6-2.33) (64bit)" Checked in my Mageia install and see: libc.so.6 in usr/lib and usr/ lib64. Ma

Re: [Pan-users] [ANNOUNCE] Pan release 0.149

2021-12-28 Thread Maurice via Pan-users
On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 15:17:09 +0100, Petr Kovar wrote: > Generated tarballs uploaded to > http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/releases/0.149/source/ > > 0.149 should build just fine for everybody. Here in RPM land on Linux Mageia, I've tried in vain to get this new version installed... Any chan

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.147 (0.146 + patches)

2021-09-12 Thread Maurice
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 16:42:24 +, Maurice wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 16:42:24 +, I wrote: > Would be interested on trying an installable 0.147 .RPM a.s.a.p. here on > Mageia-8... - because the 0.146 version I'm using here on Mageia seems unable to exit. :-( Anyone know of

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.146 on Mageia-8: Will not close cleanly

2021-06-16 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 10:57:41 -0400, glen walpert wrote: > As a workaround I have started switching to an inactive newsgroup before > closing Pan.  This results in a fast normal appearing shutdown, with the > final group change being the only thing lost - Pan reopens in the active > group and shows

[Pan-users] Pan 0.146 on Mageia-8: Will not close cleanly

2021-06-15 Thread Maurice
Using Pan 0.146 on Mageia-8, in recent weeks it has failed to close when requested, but reports: "Application Pan is not responding. Select 'Terminate' or 'Wait'. Selecting Terminate does work sometimes; Selecting Wait doesn't appear to do anything, but if I minimise the session I notice th

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.147 (0.146 + patches)

2021-06-15 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 08:26:01 +0200, Detlef Graef wrote: > I've tried to build a RPM for mageia-8-x86_64 but it has failed: > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dgraef/Pan/build/2253438/ OIC. I wish I was familiar enough with the packaging... Good hunting... Regards, -- /\

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.147 (0.146 + patches)

2021-06-14 Thread Maurice
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:49:29 +0200, Detlef Graef wrote: > I've created a binary RPM package (Fedora) of Pan 0.146 + some patches: Would be interested on trying an installable 0.147 .RPM a.s.a.p. here on Mageia-8... Regards, -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-u

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-10 Thread Maurice
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 02:49:55 +, Duncan wrote: > Once the columns are displayed in the headers pane, you can do the usual > drag the column header to the ordered-place you want it. Yes, that works, and by using the 'Up' action in Preferences I've managed to bring the Action column to the l

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-10 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 13:21:24 +, Dave wrote: > make sure "State" is ticked. As I said earlier, Subject, Author, Date, State are the ones checked. Regards, -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mai

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-08 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 07 Dec 2018 21:13:43 +, Dave wrote: > There should be two narrow, unlabelled columns to the left of Subject. > Far left is the "read" status, next is the cache status, then Subject > and the rest. Mmm. No sign whatsoever of any column in front of SENT's Subject... (Using Linux Pa

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-08 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 02:56:17 +, Duncan wrote: > You need the action column to see the cached status, with the disc icon > when it's cached.) OK, but I did say that it was already selected. :-) Regards, -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-07 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 07 Dec 2018 08:31:37 +, Duncan wrote: > Keep in mind that gmane is not a normal news server. The odd thing is that I have been posting successfully to that Gmane NG since 2013, the last and final one on Dec.3 2017. Since then postings have been no-ops. (No problem postin

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-07 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:40:36 +, Duncan wrote: > in the action column as listed in prefs on the headers tab, The Prefs/Headers list shows only: Subject, Author, Date, State, Action, Bytes, Lines, Score (First 4 are selected here) Which selection needs changing? Regards, -- /\/\

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-07 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 07 Dec 2018 06:40:36 +, Duncan wrote: > The disc icon (which should be in the action column as listed in prefs > on the headers tab, obviously you'll have to have that column > displayed), You lost me there! When I bring the Sent info up, the only displayed columns are: Subject/Au

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-06 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:32:34 +, I wrote: > In my Pan /Local_folders/Sent group I see the Subject line of several > postings that never arrived in the target NG. Tried again, but: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-06 Thread Maurice
On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:55:33 +, Dave wrote: > have you checked using a different news server? No other server has the NG, I'm afraid... Regards, -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/list

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-06 Thread Maurice
On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:55:33 +, Dave wrote: > did you try refreshing your newsgroups > from the server? Your server may have dropped the group. You mean Groups/refresh server? Tried that. But I can READ from the NG; just can't WRITE! > On a similar note, have you checked using a differ

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-06 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 10:18:31 +, Duncan wrote: > Try quitting and restarting pan. You should then see the cached icon > beside the sent messages and be able to display them. You mean the envelope icon? R.Clicked on that and selected Read Article, but nothing appeared to happen. Regards,

Re: [Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-05 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 22:05:53 +, Dave wrote: > If they never made it to the server in the first place, then your out of > luck. What I feared,dammit! The NG it didn't reach is one I did successfully post to earlier thhis year, but I can't figure out why they won'y post to it now... Rehgard

[Pan-users] Seeing contents of 'Sent' postings that were never posted

2018-12-04 Thread Maurice
In my Pan /Local_folders/Sent group I see the Subject line of several ostings that never arrived in the target NG. How does one retrieve the text of one of those files? -- /\/\aurice Linux 64-bit Mageia-6:Pan 0.140 KDE Plasma 5.12.2 Virtualbox 5.2.14

Re: [Pan-users] Unable to post to certain NG

2018-10-01 Thread Maurice
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 08:09:04 +, Duncan wrote: > The first thing to remember is that any gmane.* group is actually a > mailing list, Ah, yes - I was overlooking that. > What happens if you email the post directly to the mailing list address, I will look into that; just at the moment I can'

[Pan-users] Unable to post to certain NG

2018-09-30 Thread Maurice
I'm finding that any postings I try to make to the newsgroup: gmane.linux.mageia.devel never appear there, although I can read postings from the same group. N.B. The last successful posting from me there was in 9/2017. Can anyone suggest an explanation, please? Many thanks! -- /\/\aur

Re: [Pan-users] No Albasani access today?

2018-01-27 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:39:50 +, I wrote: > Although can read headers from Albasani, Pan fails to fetg message > bodies. Back now... -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-user

[Pan-users] No Albasani access today?

2018-01-27 Thread Maurice
Although can read headers from Albasani, Pan fails to fetg message bodies. (No problem with Mozilla or Gmana, though.) Anyone else seeing this? -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649 Linux 64-bit Mageia-6:Pan 0.140 KDE P

Re: [Pan-users] Size of Toolbar icons; canot read 'tooltips' text

2017-07-30 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:00:45 +, I wrote: > making the 'tooltip' text readable OK - have fiddled around in System Settings/Colour, and chose the Zion box, which - in Pan - shows the text white on a black background, so now easy to read. Not found anything yet that changes the size of the P

Re: [Pan-users] Size of Toolbar icons; canot read 'tooltips' text

2017-07-30 Thread Maurice
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 00:20:27 +, Duncan wrote: > First, is your pan a gtk2 or gtk3 based build? (Check package > dependencies or run ldd /path/to/pan and see.) $ ldd /usr/bin/pan linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffec7d13000) libgtkspell.so.0 => /lib64/libgtkspell.so.0 (0x7f5972616

[Pan-users] Size of Toolbar icons; canot read 'tooltips' text

2017-07-29 Thread Maurice
Now using PAN 0.140, I cannot find a way of making the toolbar icons bigger, or making the 'tooltip' text readable (seems to be pale yellow on a grey background)! Where have I omitted to look, please? -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649

Re: [Pan-users] How to use Numeric Pad 'Delete' key

2016-05-20 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 19 May 2016 23:34:21 +, Duncan wrote: > But > that's going to change so many things[1] it's not worth worrying about > just one, for now. More than likely! I've been unable to get pan 0.139 working on Mageia-6 pre-release. See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756458 &

Re: [Pan-users] How to use Numeric Pad 'Delete' key

2016-05-19 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 19 May 2016 07:41:48 +, Duncan wrote: > xmodmap -e "keycode 91 = Delete" That works fine! Many thanks... (No problem losing the Keypad "."; never used it.) -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nong

Re: [Pan-users] How to use Numeric Pad 'Delete' key

2016-05-18 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 17 May 2016 02:33:15 +, Duncan wrote: > So first thing, try toggling numlock and see if it works then. (This also applies on my Mageia-5 desktop, by the way) No difference whether Numlock is 'on' or 'off'. > Then take a look at the accels.txt file in $PANHOME (~/.pan2

[Pan-users] How to use Numeric Pad 'Delete' key

2016-05-16 Thread Maurice
On my HP 450G2 Probook there are 2 Delete keys, but for 'Delete Article' Pan 0.139 ignores the Delete key just below the numeric pad. Is there a way I can enable it for Delete Article? -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649 Linux 64-

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2016-03-27 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 21 May 2015 12:51:17 +, I wrote: > Last week I was in a French (Aix-en-Provence) hotel whose WiFi access > was blocking Port 119, so could not use Pan to access newsgroups. Struck similar situation in Funchal (Madeira) last week. So tried Port 563 and that seemed to work - at fir

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139-7 will not start

2016-03-15 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 08:07:26 +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756458 comment 5 and 8 Many thanks for the pointer, Dominique! -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139-7 will not start

2016-03-15 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:50:36 +, I wrote: > See here for light at end of tunnel: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pan-users/2013-07/msg00039.html Opp, ignore that - posted wrong URL in wrong NG... -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing li

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139-7 will not start

2016-03-15 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:42:04 +, I wrote: > am now setting off in Pursuit Of Truth... See here for light at end of tunnel: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pan-users/2013-07/msg00039.html -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@no

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139-7 will not start

2016-03-15 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 00:07:33 +, Duncan wrote: > Will the app start with a clean user config? If I hide .pan2 then yes, it will start normally, though empty. Many thanks for tuition. am now setting off in Pursuit Of Truth... :-) -- /\/\aurice ___

[Pan-users] Pan 0.139-7 will not start

2016-03-14 Thread Maurice
Using V.139-6 here on Mageia-5 with no problems, I tried using V.139-7 on Mageia-6 Beta, but it fails (using a copy of Mageia-5's .pan2 directory): $ pan GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name news.pan.NZB was not provided by any .service files (pan:7270): Gtk-WARNING

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-24 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 23 May 2015 14:19:29 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'd suggest that you just accept that you can't read Usenet at work. Being retired and not at work, I decided that - in the absence of any available workaround for the hotel's 119 blocking - I would simply postpone newsgroup access until re

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-23 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 22 May 2015 17:26:00 +, David Shochat wrote: > think you missed a key part of what Duncan posted: I didn't, actually. It's just that as a Mageia user I use the Mageia version, which Duncan's response confirms was not built with the security options. What puzzles me is why it wasn

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-22 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 22 May 2015 16:36:43 +, Duncan wrote: > Edit > Edit News Servers > [select server, gmane in this case] > Edit > > Security > TLS (SSL) settings > Use Secure SSL Connections. Edit News Servers shows no Security option for any of the servers. The version of Pan I'm using is - accor

Re: [Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-22 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 22 May 2015 03:20:02 +, Duncan wrote: > It depends on your news servers, which you didn't mention. news.gmane.org:119 news.albasani.net:119 news.eternal-september.org:119 news.mozilla.org:119 > ... had you switched pan's gmane server config to secure, How does one do t

[Pan-users] Port 119 blocked - no newsgroup access!

2015-05-21 Thread Maurice
Last week I was in a French (Aix-en-Provence) hotel whose WiFi access was blocking Port 119, so could not use Pan to access newsgroups. Is there an alternative port I could have used, or any other workaround? (Hoping for an early solution I tried to post problem last week on Pan mailing-list, b

Re: [Pan-users] Getting going

2015-02-12 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:46:10 +0100, Dieter Britz wrote: > I have a new Linux system on a new hard disk and have installed pan > again. Did you not clone your old .pan2 directory across to the new install? -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649

[Pan-users] What changed view of headers?

2014-09-25 Thread Maurice
A few months ago I suddenly lost all the header lists: Nothing appeared there. Empty for all subscribed newsgroups. Checking View/header list I found that "Match only unread articles" was ticked. Unticked it and headers re-appeared. Today the same thing has happened. Anyone had this? Known bug?

Re: [Pan-users] Can't fetch text of new postings on eternal-september NNTP server

2014-04-11 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:00:33 -0400, eddie.seymour-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w wrote: > The server at eternal-september has been down all morning. Thanks, Eddie. Seems to be back up now. -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org htt

[Pan-users] Can't fetch text of new postings on eternal-september NNTP server

2014-04-11 Thread Maurice
Anyone here using the eternal-september NNTP server? Today any attempts to fetch the text of new postings on that server fail, although I can fetch the headers. Anyone know what's afoot, please? -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a "sent" folder for Pan 0.135 (for sending to moderated newsgroups)?

2013-09-29 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:24:58 +, Duncan wrote: > the feature remains quite new and buggy. OIC. Many thanks for the background, Duncan! -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pa

Re: [Pan-users] Is there a "sent" folder for Pan 0.135 (for sending to moderated newsgroups)?

2013-09-27 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:50:23 +, Duncan wrote: > There is a "sent" folder once again in current pan Where is it found in Pan 0.139, Duncan? -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pa

Re: [Pan-users] Firefox starts *behind* Pan window

2013-07-06 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 16:23:19 +, Duncan wrote: > workspace appearance and behavior, but under workspace appearance, > window decorations, hit the configure buttons button. That's a whole new world for me with which - for the purposes of the Firefox problem - I don't want to start getting i

Re: [Pan-users] Firefox starts *behind* Pan window

2013-07-06 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 00:34:42 +, Duncan wrote: > Do you have any window rules that could affect either pan or firefox? > Here, I have window rules for both, Where/what is your window rule for Pan, Duncan? > if you've tried both pans on the same system (thus with the same > kwin) I can

Re: [Pan-users] Firefox starts *behind* Pan window

2013-07-05 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 18:29:34 +, Duncan wrote: > open firefox on a different desktop, then switch to the one you're > running pan on, and click a link. Yes, that works, but my point is that - without having Firefox open before clicking a URL in e·g. KMail or Kwrite - Firefox does come up

Re: [Pan-users] Firefox starts *behind* Pan window

2013-07-05 Thread Maurice
On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 01:51:05 +, Duncan wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, that would be a window-manager setting, > not a pan or firefox setting. Probably something to do with > focus-stealing- prevention. > > What window-manager are you using? KWin. And in System Setings/Window Behavi

[Pan-users] Firefox starts *behind* Pan window

2013-07-04 Thread Maurice
Since starting to use Pan '2' I'm seeing that when I select a URL in a message, the Firefox window comes up *behind* Pan (whereas with e.g. Kmail, Kwrite it comes out on top). I don't see any option in either to control this behaviour. Where is it?! -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey,

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Where -in .pan2 - are setup info for fonts and window area sizes kep?

2013-06-26 Thread Maurice
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:57:05 +, Duncan wrote: > as I pointed out and recommended, you can do that with quite a > few of the files. The newsgroups.ynm file, for instance, shouldn't need > constantly synced between machines. Point taken, but I'm not bothered about needless & harmless sync'ing

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Where -in .pan2 - are setup info for fonts and window area sizes kep?

2013-06-25 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:46:13 +0200, andreas nastke wrote: > should be located in '${PAN_HOME}preferences.xml' - near the bottom, i > think Thank you Andreas (& Duncan). That looks good. When you say "...at the bottom", I suppose you mean 'the relevant values for fonts/sizes' I believe what I

[Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Where -in .pan2 - are setup info for fonts and window area sizes kep?

2013-06-25 Thread Maurice
Is there a file in .pan2 where the setup info on fonts and sub-window sizes are kept, that is separate from general news server access? (The reason I ask is because when away from base with laptop or netbook, I clone the current .pan2 onto lapop or netbook on which - for reasons of different sc

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139 refuses to start! [SOLVED]

2013-06-24 Thread Maurice
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:33:45 +, Duncan wrote: > unless by some chance you missed the perms on that file, No! -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139 refuses to start! [SOLVED]

2013-06-24 Thread Maurice
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:48:39 +, Duncan wrote: > tasks.nzb , I think you mean. Yes, indeed. I don't see that was the cause of the problem though, because: (1) With the same .pan2 (with all permissions changed to new user) containing the same.tasks.nzb file, Pan *did* start. (2) If I

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139 refuses to start! [SOLVED]

2013-06-22 Thread Maurice
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:24:26 +, Duncan wrote: > if I had the > corresponding strace of a successful run to compare it against, and > possibly a diff between them (tho I could of course do that myself once > I had both straces in hand), that would spotlite the differences, So I scooted back

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139 refuses to start!

2013-06-22 Thread Maurice Batey
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 09:39:26 +0200, Heinrich Müller wrote: > Normally this just means that pan has been started twice. > Check with top/htop. Interesting thought, but I still get the 'failure to start' if I try Pan immediately after login. I'm not familiar with your "top/htop" suggestion, Hein

Re: [Pan-users] Pan0.139 problems

2013-06-22 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:59:24 -0500, bob wrote: > For fonts, [Edit] ==> [Preferences] ==> [Fonts] > See fonts.jpg I do use Pan's option's to control fonts, but they don't include the grey 'header' panel that appears at the top of the message window. (Solved that problem by minimising it and t

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Grey Subject/From/Date panel above message windowL: Font size

2013-06-21 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:06:43 +, Duncan wrote: > I don't have gtk3 installed Judging by the strace at: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10969499/strace.txt - my Mageia-3 doesn't, either ("gtk2" occurs all over) -- /\/\aurice ___

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139 refuses to start!

2013-06-21 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 08:40:08 +, Duncan wrote: > I /believe/ canberra is the gtk sound event module. I suspect the 'canberra-gt*" warning is a red herring; I was probably getting that (but not seeing it) when starting Pan from the system icon. The reason I say that is because I have tried

[Pan-users] Pan 0.139 refuses to start!

2013-06-20 Thread Maurice Batey
Just one thing after another! Just when all seemed to be sorted out, all of a sudden Pan cannot start! $ pan Gtk -Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module Added 0 files to queue. exiting.! Tried uninstalling/re-installing Pan.

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139: No message bodies appearing when clicking on header line

2013-06-20 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:37:36 +, Duncan wrote: > does the event log show anything interesting? Ah, yes it does! For several items in April, for example, it shows "...the (Gmane) server does not have the part..." The odd thing is it's not consistent. Many items in April are fetchable, many

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Grey Subject/From/Date panel above message windowL: Font size

2013-06-20 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:29:59 +, Duncan wrote: > status is there in plain text in the bottom left corner, status bar. > (Status in the status bar, who'd a thunk? =:^) I see no status bar (let alone status) before me! Where is it supposed to be? > And the info bubble for the systray icon,

[Pan-users] Pan 0.139: No message bodies appearing when clicking on header line

2013-06-20 Thread Maurice
Using Pan 0.139 on Mageia-3 Given that I have many headers shown in the Header List for recent weeks, I can't get the corresponding bodies to appear for most headers earlier than June 5th. The server setting is set to 'Keep for 3 months'. Is there any way of getting Pan to fetch the body of

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Grey Subject/From/Date panel above message windowL: Font size

2013-06-20 Thread Maurice
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 13:06:43 +, Duncan wrote: > AFAIK, while pan has font prefs for the various window/pane data areas, > it still uses gtk defaults for the "chrome", including menu, toolbar and > statusbar text and the header-display area text at the top of the body > pane. OIC - so there'

[Pan-users] Pan 0.139: Grey Subject/From/Date panel above message windowL: Font size

2013-06-20 Thread Maurice
Well, I've at last bitten the bullet and moved over onto Pan2 (on Mageia-3). Just one question: Above the message window there is a grey panel showing Subject, From, and Date. But the font is far too small. How does one adjust it? (Also, had a panic this morning; Pan would not fetch new h

Re: [Pan-users] OT: Youtube/minitube Was: Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-21 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:34:07 +, Duncan wrote: > it appears that 1.9 (released back in > September, 2012) *WAS* such a "youtube changed" update, so unfortunately, > 1.7.1 may well not work so well. All I can say is try it and see. Just checked in Mageia-3-Beta4: Minitube 1.9 available th

Re: [Pan-users] OT: Youtube/minitube Was: Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-19 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 02:24:27 +, Duncan wrote: > minitube's absolutely AMAZING I see that Mageia-2 has Minitube 1.7.1 in its library. Is that a reasonably up-to-date version? > The only problem is that you need to supply it a search term to start > with. Could you give an examp

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-19 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:45:11 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > it's an incredibly *quality* film too. Including the delectable Anne Francis... -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-18 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 11:36:08 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > ou might remember him playing the captain in > Forbidden Planet, which was also the first screen appearance of Robbie > the Robot. Most enjoyable film! -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users m

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-18 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 01:07:25 +0700, Ed Fletcher wrote: > That video wouldn't load in Firefox It wouldn't here, until I installed FlashPlayer. -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-18 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 01:07:25 +0700, Ed Fletcher wrote: > Airplane is an hour and a half of humour. Yes! I vagely remember seeing it (Norman Neilson?) on a Transatlantic flight decades ago, but obviously the 'Shirley' bit did not last the passage of tume... -- /\/\aurice ___

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan (Mouse hover text problem)

2013-04-18 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:22:03 +0100, I wrote: > I've installed the Mageia-3 Pan 0.139. (On a Samsung NC110 netbook) One unexpected problem is that when the mouse is hovered over one of the action icons (e.g. "Next unread arcticle") , the mini-window that appears has black text on a dark grey

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-18 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 01:19:44 +0700, Ed Fletcher wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5t5_O8hdA > > This movie is, btw, one of my favourite comedies. This is one of mine: http://www.snotr.com/video/8965/ (It's in German, but you only need to know that the daughter is asking her

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:34:04 +, Duncan wrote: > the big change version seemed to be 0.136. Many thanks for all that, Duncan. Much appreciated... So I'll be postponing any move from Mageia-2 until it upgrades Pan to at least 0.136 (or I'm confident enough to move over to Mageia-3, but that

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:43:29 +, Duncan wrote: > configure the desired > posting server as just another bit of info in the posting profile, and > select that as desired. Yes, the Group Preferences option allows the user to nail each group to a precise Profile, I eventually was happy to fin

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 00:19:50 +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > "Surely you cannot be serious!" > > to which the answer is: > > "I am serious, and don't call me Shirley." OIC. Hilarious! Thank you! (I had actually suspected that someone misread the word "surely" in one of my postings! [Make

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:21:28 +, Duncan wrote: > 0.139 is pretty recent The latest version on my 'production' machine (Mageia-2) is 0.135. Is there a list somewhere of the difference between 0.135 and 0.139? (Don't want to make the change to 0.135 and then find there are options missing th

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:04:38 +0100, I wrote: > I did take a look there yesterday but didn't see it, so will look > again soon - thank you. OK, now I see it - right at the foot of the screen, clashing with the contents of the Mageia Panel on the 1024x600 screen on the netbook. -- /\/\auric

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 02:41:58 +, Duncan wrote: > Toggle headers on, and look at the path header for > a post or two in the group. That header will have a list of every server > the message went thru, the propagation path, including the server pan > fetched it from. So, erm, couldn't Pan

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 03:21:28 +, Duncan wrote: > Take a look in pan prefs, behavior tab, article cache section. That's > where the cache size is set, here, tho it can be noted that I'm running > the git version, but 0.139 is pretty recent so I think it should have > that setting. I did

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 02:19:13 +, Duncan wrote: > it fetches the group from ALL servers that have it > available, ... > Pan doesn't have any idea which of them > you want to post to unless it is told, ... It simply does what it is told > by the posting profile. So if I don't know which serv

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-17 Thread Maurice Batey
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 02:05:23 +, Duncan wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?q=don%27t+call+me+shirley Many thanks, Duncan, for your always informative attempts to clarify the situation, but I'm afraid even that URL still leaves me completely in the dark w.r.t. 'Shirley' - despite having li

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:41:13 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > And, I'd like to point out that the man's name is Duncan, not > Shirley. Uh?! -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:08:51 +, Maurice wrote: > ‪ otherwise the From selection will default to the first Profile > defined? Actually, it didn't remember. The above posting was done with the Gmane-short profile, but when I then did this reply the From selection still defaulted t

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:01:45 +, Duncan wrote: > pan will remember that choice for that group and > use it again automatically after that. -‪ otherwise the From selection will default to the first Profile defined? (First posting from Pan2...) -- /\/\aurice ___

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:48:06 +, Duncan wrote: > it's possible to set a multi-gig cache and no expiry if you like, How does one do that? (Can't see option anywhere.) -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:01:45 +, Duncan wrote: > For groups that appear on multiple servers, that presents a > problem when you post to that group, as pan now has to figure out which > server to post to. That surprises me! Surely Pan knows from which server it fetched the group, so if I r

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:01:45 +, Duncan wrote: > And for each group, you can change the posting profile, including the > server posted to, and pan will remember that choice for that group and > use it again automatically after that. I was all clear about the sitation until I read that, but t

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:22:03 +0100, I wrote: > I've installed the Mageia-3 Pan 0.139. So new pan uses a ~/.pan2 directory*. Does it use any other control files (config etc.)? So if I need to clone new pan to e.g. laptop for use away from base, I just need to take a copy of (or update via

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:22:03 +0100, I wrote: > I've installed the Mageia-3 Pan 0.139. Next problem is Posting Profiles. The Posting Profile pro-forma has an entry 'Post via , which puzzles me. With 'old' Pan I had 3 profiles, two of which used a 'disguised' email address (one with short sig

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-16 Thread Maurice Batey
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:09:27 +, Duncan wrote: > The usual shift-click-range, Ah, yes, that's it. And the option to d/l 'n' headers is after the 'Get Headers' option. Thank you, Duncan! -- /\/\aurice ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-us

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-15 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:51:29 +0100, I wrote: > all sorted now Except for a way to initialise each newsgroup with, say, the latest 50 postings, otherwise I shall finish up with 10,000's of postings in each. There seems to be way to do that for individual groups (i.e. one at a time), but not on

Re: [Pan-users] Trying to use 'new' Pan

2013-04-15 Thread Maurice Batey
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:22:03 +0100, I wrote: > I cannot find a way of getting it to read new headers from the other 3 > (or even show me the list of groups available on them). OK - all sorted now. Hadn't realised it had gathered them altogether in one list, rather than per server! -- /\/\aur

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