[Pan-users] Re: So, what's left before 1.0?

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Joe Zeff, Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:55:59 -0700: > I made the mistake of experimenting with the Assitive Technologies on > Fedora 10 and got the same result. I think there were one or two other > programs affected, but the problem with Pan was the most pronounced. I had always AT switched off, but my w

[Pan-users] Re: 0.134 and Beyond

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Jeff Berman, Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:45:16 -0700: > I'm surprised there hasn't been more uptake by others in fixing bugs and > adding features. In my mind Pan is the best newsreader out there. I > wonder what news reader all the Linux-using C++ developers are using > (and contributing to)? slrn? ema

[Pan-users] Re: 0.134 and Beyond

2009-09-29 Thread Matej Cepl
walt, Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:45:50 -0700: > So -- why not implement the pan GUI in java and let each platform deal > with the optimized c++ part in its own way (already done)? Because it is insane ... show me one nice Java GUI program which isn't an insane memory hog. Do you remember those days whe

[Pan-users] Re: Big XML files... (was Re: Re: Better processing of very large groups?)

2009-07-07 Thread Matej Cepl
Steven D'Aprano, Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:58:14 +1000: > Sounds like crap to me *grins*. Should I say how to you look to me now? Matěj ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

[Pan-users] Re: Big XML files... (was Re: Re: Better processing of very large groups?)

2009-07-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Steven D'Aprano, Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:58:28 +1000: > The missus uses Thunderbird, and as near as we can tell, its spam > filtering is crap. She found false negative rates approaching 50% (half > the actual spam was flagged as good) and false positive rates > approaching 10% (one out of ten good emai

[Pan-users] Re: Big XML files... (was Re: Re: Better processing of very large groups?)

2009-07-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Ron Johnson, Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:43:55 -0500: > Obviously (as in your use-case below), some people do. But they are > mostly in "institutional" settings, where Pan probably wouldn't be > approved anyway. Dare you elaborate? What's wrong with newsreader? Matěj _

[Pan-users] Re: Big XML files... (was Re: Re: Better processing of very large groups?)

2009-07-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Ron Johnson, Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:56:36 -0500: > Also (and maybe because I'm a DBA), this problem just *screams* for > SQLite and a database in the "First Normal Form". After reading http://www.jwz.org/doc/mailsum.html and having still alive experience with Evolution, I don't trust any email clien

[Pan-users] Re: another update

2009-07-03 Thread Matej Cepl
K. Haley, Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:15:55 -0600: > I think I finally got all the gmime changes done. There was a change in > the behavior of g_mime_message_foreach that caused pan to make two > passes through multipart messages. > > git://github.com/lostcoder/pan2.git Today's pull from git is packaged

[Pan-users] Re: Download All New Messages from All Subscribed Groups

2009-06-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan, Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:10:42 +: > That was nearly two years ago, with one maintenance release, updating > pan to compile with new versions of gcc and various libraries as well as > fixing a security vuln, at exactly one year after the last previous > update. That was version 0.133, releas

[Pan-users] Download All New Messages from All Subscribed Groups

2009-06-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Why is this (IMHO, quite basic) functionality not implemneted? Pressing Ctrl-D,D,C,G fourty times (I have redefined C to be Cache this message) every morning doesn't feel like state-of-the-art of the 21st century. :) Matěj ___ Pan-users mailing list

[Pan-users] Re: posting server according to the group one?

2009-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan, Tue, 26 May 2009 13:12:51 +: > because as a > sysadmin and occasional IP networking troubleshooter, I'm far too used > to thinking of it at the IP routing level. > > That's why I let it be... That's apparently the problem we have. However, I have already wrote reply to this post, whi

[Pan-users] Re: posting server according to the group one?

2009-05-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan, Tue, 26 May 2009 02:27:24 +: > For text-only, /possibly/ but it'd surprise me. You're probably right. >> a) identity for posting ... yes, of course, I understand need for >> double identity, but then it should be really identity, > > Real identity? You lost me at that point. Identi

[Pan-users] Re: posting server according to the group one?

2009-05-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan, Mon, 25 May 2009 10:32:59 +: > Special purpose or private servers such as gmane and grc just happen to > be using the same NNTP protocol as normal USENET even if they aren't a > part of it, and as such, it should be expected that they don't fit the > general mold perfectly. Being the o

[Pan-users] posting server according to the group one?

2009-05-25 Thread Matej Cepl
This feels very very weird ... I have just tried to make a followup to message from news.grc.com and pan complained that it doesn't want to post to that newsgroup via news.gmane.org. WTF? Doesn't pan know where it get the newsgroup from? What's so complicated to expect that the followup would g

[Pan-users] Re: Documentations

2009-05-21 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan, Thu, 21 May 2009 12:19:14 +: > against a demon!> keep that stuff off my system!) Don't worry, we will turn you to The Only Right Desktop in due time ;-). Matej ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailm

[Pan-users] Re: Documentations

2009-05-21 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan, Thu, 14 May 2009 16:03:05 +: > There are already patches for a couple other neat features, including > the ability to set preferred spell-check language per-group. for > instance. As-is the patch doesn't really match Charles' simplicity > standards as one must type in the appropriate la

[Pan-users] Re: An "alias" feature for group names

2007-06-25 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:35:05 -0400, Rinaldi J. Montessi scripst: > Older versions of Netscape Communicator news client (up to 4.xx) had a > feature similar to this. I believe it involved manipulation of the > newsrc file either at the server end or the user end. Those > manipulations added by the

[Pan-users] Re: An "alias" feature for group names

2007-06-23 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2007-06-22, 16:56 GMT, Duncan wrote: > That would be a useful feature, certainly. Have you bugged it > (entered it on bugzilla as a feature request) yet? If not, > please do so. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450368 Thanks, Matěj _

[Pan-users] Re: An "alias" feature for group names

2007-06-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:33:36 +, Benjamin Esham scripst: > Would it be possible to implement an "alias" feature, so that each group > has an alternate name that is shown when "abbreviate group names" is > turned on? I don't think it's necessary to add a UI for this; I'd > personally be fine with

[Pan-users] Re: FAQ: List of most heavily requested features, now targeted at 1.1 stable

2007-06-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:15:13 +, Duncan scripst: > Anybody see anything else often requested that I've missed? From here, > it looks like that would cover the most requested items, tho there are > of course other minor (less often requested) requests and details > (including my own, the ability

[Pan-users] Re: An "alias" feature for group names

2007-06-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:21:29 +, walt scripst: > +1 from me. Do you know of any news clients that have this feature? knode ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

[Pan-users] Re: [SOLVED!] slrn and pan living together in harmony?

2007-05-28 Thread Matej Cepl
On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:09:12 +0200, Matej Cepl scripst: > Just you may like this: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ rm .pan2/newsrc-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ zcat > ~/.newsrc.zaloha.gz >~/.newsrc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ln -sf ~/.newsrc > ~/.pan2/newsrc-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls -l ~/.new

[Pan-users] Re: slrn and pan living together in harmony?

2007-05-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2007-05-21, 17:07 GMT, Duncan wrote: > I'd suggest you use symlinks instead, or tell slrn to use the > default pan one if it can be so configured. It hadn't occurred > to me to try to change the pan config in that manner, but it's > possible that's why it's failing. Just you may like this:

[Pan-users] Re: slrn and pan living together in harmony?

2007-05-21 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2007-05-10, 14:16 GMT, Duncan wrote: > It should be possible. Charles has designed pan with that in > mind, and pan uses compatible newsrc and scorefile formats. > However, I've not tried it so I don't know the details at least > on the slrn side. OK, just to confirm that is doesn't work -

[Pan-users] slrn and pan living together in harmony?

2007-05-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi, is it possible to make slrn live together with pan together, so that any messages read with slrn-0.9.8.1pl1-2a.cvs20070430 (used when I need to work remotely via ssh) are marked as read for pan-0.128-1 and vice versa? I tried to symlink both to change the line in servers.xml to point to ~/

[Pan-users] Re: Missing articles

2007-04-30 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2007-04-02, 12:05 GMT, Frank Tabor wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:27:17 +0000, Matej Cepl wrote: > >> Steve Jeppesen scripst: >>> does ignoring an author or subject do this? perhaps you've setup some >>> scoring rules that would do this if that's wh

[Pan-users] Re: Missing articles

2007-04-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Calin A. Culianu scripst: > Just wondering -- what version of gmime are you on? You are on Fedora > Core 6 so I would presume it's gmime 2.2.3? Or did you upgrade? Just > curious... Yup, gmime-2.2.3-3.fc6 should I upgrade (there is 2.2.3-5.fc7 in Rawhide; hmm, probably not interesting, right

[Pan-users] Re: Missing articles

2007-04-03 Thread Matej Cepl
walt scripst: > There are five icons on the toolbar which apply built-in filters. Do The only which I have set on all the time is "Match only Unread Articles", but then when pan tells me (in groups pane) that the group has so-and-so unread articles, I would expect to see them. Soemtimes their h

[Pan-users] Re: Missing articles

2007-04-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Jeppesen scripst: > does ignoring an author or subject do this? perhaps you've setup some > scoring rules that would do this if that's what is happening. no scoring rules here at all Matej -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/, Jabber: ceplmajabber.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB

[Pan-users] Missing articles

2007-04-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi, the issue which makes me think about switching to gnus (yes, that's how much desperate I am! ;-)) is that for inexplicable reason, pan doesn't show all messages in header pane (saying that there are some unread articles in group pane, but there is nothing in header pane), and even with som

[Pan-users] G goes to "Other Groups"

2007-02-08 Thread Matej Cepl
When reading through my subscribed groups, G jumps even to the groups which were unsubscribed recently and they have still some unreaded messages. I don't like it, can you do something about it, please? Thanks a lot, Matej -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/, Jabber: ceplmajabber.cz GPG Finger

[Pan-users] Re: User feedback wanted: a new task pane layout

2007-01-23 Thread Matej Cepl
Bruce Bowler scripst: > Having said that, I think that having a consistent UI "look and feel" is > important. Therefor I vote for the current layout. +1 -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/, Jabber: ceplmajabber.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC <"}}}><

[Pan-users] Re: How do I make order so that it considers score?

2006-12-21 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan scripst: > As for the sorting, clicking on a column sorts by it. Clicking on a > column that's already sorted by reverses the order. The secondary sort > order is the previous sort order column (or so it has always seemed to to > work here, tho I seldom sort by score). And now, how to mak

[Pan-users] How do I make order so that it considers score?

2006-12-18 Thread Matej Cepl
I would like to make my threads in header pane sorted by score and then by time. How do I do it? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/, Jabber: ceplmajabber.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC America is the only country that has gone from barbarism to decade

[Pan-users] Re: Has anyone used fortune w/Pan?

2006-11-21 Thread Matej Cepl
Jack Cuyler scripst: >> I keep trying and I can't get it to work. I'm getting these UTF-8 errors. Which UTF-8 errors? What is your locale (output of locale command)? This script just works for me (and I use UTF-8 both as my locale and for sending my news posts): #!/bin/sh #Insert your constant t

[Pan-users] Re: pan-0.119 issue

2006-11-16 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan scripst: > Answering the question, core files are a system thing, not pan. I don't > know if it's a Linux-only feature or if the BSDs have it as well, and core files are from the earliest days of Unix, so they should be available everywhere the name of Kerningham & Ritchie is held in honor

[Pan-users] Re: Select all subscribed groups [Was: Re: feature request]

2006-11-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan scripst: > Pan is in very deep feature freeze ATM, only fixing bugs, until 1.0, so > that would be a "no". OK, being now in the software business myself (although originaly by education I was lawyer), I can appreciate importance of freezes. > So that has a fairly reasonable chance of happe

[Pan-users] Select all subscribed groups [Was: Re: feature request]

2006-11-03 Thread Matej Cepl
John Aldrich scripst: > I don't know if this is something that would be doable before 1.0 comes out, > but it would be nice to be able to select MULTIPLE newsgroups at one time so > that you could do a mass subscribe instead of having to select one, subscribe > to it, select the next one and sub

[Pan-users] Re: Offline Reading in Pan

2006-11-01 Thread Matej Cepl
Duncan scripst: > I use what amounts to the same thing but approach it differently. If I have more than one newsgroup (yes, I read NGs other than gmane.comp.gnome.apps.pan.user! Actually, I switched to Gnome just recently and I have used KNode exclusively). Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/