Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Duncan
Mike Brown posted on Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:46:41 -0500 as excerpted: > The /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gmime-2.6.pc file does not exist, but the > /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/gmime-2.6.pc file does exist. > > I'm running a 64 bit system. The directory /usr/lib/pkgconfig does not > exist. > > Plus, configure is l

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Duncan
Rhialto posted on Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:26:33 +0200 as excerpted: > Not that there is nothing wrong with pkgconfig. My favourite peeve for > instance is that often, if a shared library uses some other shared > library, that dependency is made explicit even when it need not be. That > results in unne

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Mike Brown
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 02:25:21PM +, David Shochat wrote: > Are you sure you have the gmime-devel rpm installed? I looked at a list > for Fedora 14 and the rpm did seem to include /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ > gmime-2.6.pc. The /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gmime-2.6.pc file does not exist, but the /usr/lib64

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread David Shochat
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 09:00:01 -0500, Mike Brown wrote: > The config files tha pkg-config are looking for are in the expected > location, but not all RPM packages update/create the file that > pkg-config is looking for. In the case of pan, the info for GMIME > doesn't exist, even though GMIME is in

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Mike Brown
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 03:26:33PM +0200, Rhialto wrote: > I think that the vast majority of software that uses configure scripts > also uses pkgconfig, these days. IMHO, I think that the use of pkg-config is unfortunate. > As I understand it, pkgconfig is used to determine *where* something is

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Rhialto
On Sat 25 Aug 2012 at 04:30:46 -0500, Mike Brown wrote: > I have to upgrade from Fedora 14 in order to get a newer pan. Can't do source > as the developers have decided that a program should be used to determine if > what is needed is installed (pkg-config). But, because not ALL of the needed I

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Mike Brown
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 08:50:37AM +, Duncan wrote: > 1) It's really cool that, of all the apps you could choose to use for > that sort of news download volume, you choose to use pan. There was a > time when it would have had a very hard time scaling, and it's great that > it not only can d

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Duncan
Mike Brown posted on Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:23:24 -0500 as excerpted: > Let's see. Astra has the $20 for 3 months, unlimited download. 1TB is > about 300 binary files in the 3GB range. I download some less and some > more, as far as size. I'll easily download more than 300 files in 3 > months. E

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Duncan
Mike Brown posted on Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:23:24 -0500 as excerpted: > 1TB is about 300 binary files in the 3GB range. I download some less > and some more, as far as size. Yeah, if you're doing multi-gig files daily, block accounts aren't the best choice. But for mostly text users they can't be

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Mike Brown
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 06:34:48AM +, Duncan wrote: > While blocknews has HISTORICALLY been cheaper, Astra's current $50 1000 > GB plan seriously undercuts blocknews ATM (that's roughly their 500 gig > plan price, 1024=$91, 3072=$240). So Astra's WAAAYYY ahead, price-wise, > ATM. Let's see

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Mike Brown
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:07:29AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/24/2012 11:34 PM, Duncan wrote: >> But, I've done a bit of research as I keep thinking I'll start with a >> paid service again at some point and I thought I'd pass this on in case >> you weren't aware of it... > > I've been very happ

Re: [Pan-users] Pan 0.133 refuses to work any longer

2012-08-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/24/2012 11:34 PM, Duncan wrote: But, I've done a bit of research as I keep thinking I'll start with a paid service again at some point and I thought I'd pass this on in case you weren't aware of it... I've been very happy, TYVM, with usenetmonster.com for the last several years. $2.95/m