Re: [Pan-users] SSL not supported?

2012-06-21 Thread Mike Brown
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:31:04AM +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: > Have a look at the cinnamon package, it makes GNOME 3 a lot like GNOME > 2, it's what the Linux Mint guys have been doing to plough their own > furrow. Thanks, it is on my list. MB -- e-mail: vid...@vidiot.com | vid...@vidiot.net

Re: [Pan-users] SSL not supported?

2012-06-21 Thread Petr Kovar
Hi all, On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:19:09 -0500 Mike Brown wrote: > See above regarding the update. I'm currently at least 2 OS versions > out-of-date, with F17 just recently being released. I'm not sure yet if I > am going to go with mate or cinnamon. AFAIK, I can't go to F17 until mate > and/or

Re: [Pan-users] SSL not supported?

2012-06-21 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:19:19 -0500 Mike Brown wrote: > Ya, I know F14 is out-of-date :-( Have a look at the cinnamon package, it makes GNOME 3 a lot like GNOME 2, it's what the Linux Mint guys have been doing to plough their own furrow. I'm using F17 with various GNOME extensions, it really wor

Re: [Pan-users] SSL not supported?

2012-06-21 Thread Mike Brown
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 08:56:21AM +, Duncan wrote: > > The readme file lists the packages as shipped by upstream. It's the > binary distros that are splitting lib packages in half, into runtime and > devel pieces, since that allows most users, the binary-only users who > never build anyth

Re: [Pan-users] SSL not supported?

2012-06-21 Thread Duncan
Mike Brown posted on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:33:13 -0500 as excerpted: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 06:50:06AM +, Duncan wrote: >> [...] >> This is certainly more complicated than pan doing it by itself > Whew! That was quite a response. Mucho appreciated. > > As for the potential need to install

Re: [Pan-users] SSL not supported?

2012-06-21 Thread Mike Brown
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 06:50:06AM +, Duncan wrote: > [...] > This is certainly more complicated than pan doing it by itself, but pan > simply didn't support ssl itself until very recently, and this was the > workaround people who needed a secure connection with pan had used for... > well, p