[Pan-users] Stand-alone Mac OS X Pan.app binary

2009-08-26 Thread MellowFlow
I've created a stand alone Mac OS X binary of Pan for use on Intel- only & on 10.5.x. • double-click to use Pan.app (only X11 is required) • current svn checkout • MacPorts portfile is included to independently built pan from svn • instructions on how to replicate Pan.app from scratch I had to

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Metzler
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:02:52 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > > Nah, that's just the Reality Distortion Field commanding him. It's phenomenal. You didn't actually read a word of my post, did you? -c -- Chris Metzler cmetz...@speakeasy.snip-me.net (remove "snip-me

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Rob
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 04:46 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > Same with CPUs: an AMD64x2 4000+ and nvidia 7300 meet all my needs. > As far as RAM, I went to 1GB about 5 years ago, and it was Good > Enough. When I got a new mobo a couple of years ago, RAM was so > cheap, I just had to go with 8GB, a

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 20:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:09:59 am Ron Johnson wrote: Delayed gratification is irrelevant to the issue being discussed. Nobody is suggesting that Chris would have better CDs and more of them if he waits to get home and listen to music. But he could have

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 03:09:59 am Ron Johnson wrote: > > Delayed gratification is irrelevant to the issue being discussed. > > Nobody is suggesting that Chris would have better CDs and more of > > them if he waits to get home and listen to music. > > But he could have spent his money on an MP3 playe

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 17:40, Graham Todd wrote: [snip] I'm 62 and still play the spoons and washboard, even with my local skiffle group - or is that too British a musical genre? According to Wikipedia, it's an *American* genre! -- Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impediment t

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Graham Todd
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:35:14 -0700 Joe Zeff uttered these words: > On 08/26/2009 Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Spike Jones at the gym??? > > Why not? What's wrong with singing along to Der Furher's Face on the > treadmill? ...or rebroadcasts of "Workers Playtime" or "Uncle Mac" (but then I'm a

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 16:35, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/26/2009 Ron Johnson wrote: Spike Jones at the gym??? Why not? What's wrong with singing along to Der Furher's Face on the treadmill? ISTR SJ songs having having pauses, weird noises, etc. > about an hour's worth of bagpipes. *That's* eclectic!

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/26/2009 Ron Johnson wrote: Spike Jones at the gym??? Why not? What's wrong with singing along to Der Furher's Face on the treadmill? > about an hour's worth of bagpipes. *That's* eclectic! No, it' headache inducing! I thought they were cool when I was young, though... Not to

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 14:15, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/26/2009 Duncan wrote: Eclectic tastes indeed. I don't know a number of those, tho it may be because I don't "do" names as effectively as some. There's a better chance I'd recognize the tunes. Humph! Amateur! Pouser! The mp3 player I use at the g

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 12:52, Rob wrote: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 02:43 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: However did we survive in the eras of CDs, cassette tapes, 8-track tapes, transistor radios, or before? We also survived in the days before email, yet here you are. And I could still live without it... A

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 15:30, Duncan wrote: Ron Johnson posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:09:59 -0500 as excerpted: But he could have spent his money on an MP3 player which, in order to keep costs reasonable, trades high capacity for higher quality sound. MP3 and high quality sound? Isn't that a bit like

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 14:07, Rob wrote: [snip] Hey, hippies (and their equally empty-headed moral descendants, showing up at staged "town hall" meetings now to protest the looming spectre of having to pay less for a necessity) I'll believe that when winged pigs squeeze out of Ann Coulter's arse.

[Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan
Ron Johnson posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:09:59 -0500 as excerpted: > But he could have spent his money on an MP3 player which, in order to > keep costs reasonable, trades high capacity for higher quality sound. MP3 and high quality sound? Isn't that a bit like that old song (which I hear at wo

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/26/2009 Duncan wrote: Eclectic tastes indeed. I don't know a number of those, tho it may be because I don't "do" names as effectively as some. There's a better chance I'd recognize the tunes. Humph! Amateur! Pouser! The mp3 player I use at the gym has, among other things, Raymond

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Rob
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 01:09 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > But he could have spent his money on an MP3 player which, in order > to keep costs reasonable, trades high capacity for higher quality sound. > If such a beast even exists... My 160GB Archos cost less than an 80GB iPod when I bought it, an

Re: [Off-topic] Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Rob
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 08:30 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Technology enables people to mistake "nice to have" for "essential to > have". Nobody worried about having to leave their music collection at > home when they went out when music was on CDs, or albums, because it People also went for day

[Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan
Gerald L posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:19:35 -0500 as excerpted: >> WTF is Concrete Blonde? > > Now I know why you don't understand the need to have it all with you all > the time. Your listening moods aren't eclectic enough. You can be > satisfied with a few hundred songs by your "favorite artis

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Rob
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 02:43 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > However did we survive in the eras of CDs, cassette tapes, 8-track > tapes, transistor radios, or before? We also survived in the days before email, yet here you are. > > Or as I've mentioned, if you for instance get talking to someone abou

[Pan-users] Re: quoting characters

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan
Bruce Bowler posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:26:14 + as excerpted: > Short of recompiling, is there a way to tell pan what characters > constitute "flags" to say "this bit of text is a quote from a previous > post" so that it gets colored? Hmm. I know what you're asking, as I've seen the setti

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 08:39, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:18:53 pm Ron Johnson wrote: All of this is about convenience. I have over 4,000 CDs. A high-storage player matters a lot to me, too, for the reason above: the higher the capacity, the more likely I am to have with me what I wa

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Metzler
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:18:53 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-26 02:41, Chris Metzler wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:43:22 -0500 > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >> On 2009-08-25 10:01, Duncan wrote: > >> [snip] > >>> But if it's all there on the MP3 player, there's no need to worry > >>> ab

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:18:53 pm Ron Johnson wrote: > > All of this is about convenience. I have over 4,000 CDs. A > > high-storage player matters a lot to me, too, for the reason above: > > the higher the capacity, the more likely I am to have with me what > > I want when I want it. Of *course*

[Pan-users] quoting characters

2009-08-26 Thread Bruce Bowler
Short of recompiling, is there a way to tell pan what characters constitute "flags" to say "this bit of text is a quote from a previous post" so that it gets colored? Thanks! Bruce -- If nothing's gonna happen, you can't make it. - Yogi Berra

Concrete Blondie (was Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists)

2009-08-26 Thread Graham Todd
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:37:43 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> uttered these words: > More seriously, it's /possible/[1] you remember the pop-single > "Joey", from the "Bloodletting" album of 1990. Anyway, wp: it![2] > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_Blonde [snipped] We're getti

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 02:41, Chris Metzler wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:43:22 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-25 10:01, Duncan wrote: [snip] But if it's all there on the MP3 player, there's no need to worry about trying to decide just /what/ to copy over, and then finding you're in a totally dif

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 01:37, Duncan wrote: Ron Johnson posted on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:07:31 -0500 as excerpted: Yes, but think of it... you're driving along a lonely country road when aliens abduct you and take you up to the mothership. Hu-man," they say, "Emperor Xymatvfg!ohq has sent us to des-troy yo

Re: [Off-topic] Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-26 01:19, Gerald L wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-25 19:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Yes, but think of it... you're driving along a lonely country road when aliens abduct you and take you up to the mothership. Hu-man," they say, "Emperor Xymatvfg!ohq has sent us to des-troy your

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Metzler
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:43:22 -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-25 10:01, Duncan wrote: > [snip] > > > > But if it's all there on the MP3 player, there's no need to worry > > about trying to decide just /what/ to copy over, and then finding > > you're in a totally different mood, and it's the

[Pan-users] Re: [Off-topic] Re: Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan
Steven D'Aprano posted on Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:30:55 +1000 as excerpted: > On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:43:22 am Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 2009-08-25 10:01, Duncan wrote: >> [snip] >> >> > But if it's all there on the MP3 player, there's no need to worry >> > about trying to decide just /what/ to copy ove