Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-20 Thread Erin Mallory
life.com > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode > > On 2011-03-20, at 15:04, Da5id Kronfeld wrote: > > I like "tourist", with maybe (eventually 3?) modes: "tourist", "resident", > > and "creator" (or &q

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-20 Thread Argent Stonecutter
On 2011-03-20, at 15:04, Da5id Kronfeld wrote: > I like "tourist", with maybe (eventually 3?) modes: "tourist", "resident", > and "creator" (or "resident-creator"). I don't think separating "creator" like that is a good idea. Everyone in SL is potentially a creator, at every moment, that's what

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-20 Thread Da5id Kronfeld
On 2011-03-20, at 12:57 PM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > I like the suggestion that the "basic" mode be called something like > "tourist" or "introductory" or "beginners" mode. There's just so much stuff > that people need to be able to do that it seems to be ruling out, I can't > imagine anyon

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-20 Thread Argent Stonecutter
I like the suggestion that the "basic" mode be called something like "tourist" or "introductory" or "beginners" mode. There's just so much stuff that people need to be able to do that it seems to be ruling out, I can't imagine anyone sticking with it for long. "Basic" implies that someone could

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-19 Thread Hitomi Tiponi
Oz Linden wrote: > Any hard-coded color is a bug - if you find them, please file an issue. I agree Oz - but as I have found 91 hard-coded colours in /default/xui/en/ alone I hardly felt like listing them all. I restrict myself to logging JIRAs for crashing, performance or serious usability is

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-19 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2011-03-19 7:21, Hitomi Tiponi wrote: > > And a plea - remind your developers to use the referenced colours in > the colors.xml file rather than hard-coding them. Any hard-coded color is a bug - if you find them, please file an issue. ___ Policies a

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-19 Thread Hitomi Tiponi
>Trilo Byte wrote: >2) I agree with Hitomi's comment, this could/should have been done as a >viewer >skin implementation. Open up that door, and let the community > get more invested in using (and creating) skins for the viewer. To be fair they have enabled skinning in Viewer 2.6.0, and I am

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-18 Thread Ricky
I like those: my mind was in a conflict whether the list should be sorted alphabetically or, as currently done, by purpose. With names like you are proposing, both would be the same! Ricky Cron Stardust On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Da5id Kronfeld wrote: > > On 2011-03-18, at 1:37 PM, Trilo

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-18 Thread Da5id Kronfeld
On 2011-03-18, at 1:37 PM, Trilo Byte wrote: > > > 3) I think the mode names should be different. Advanced could seem > intimidating to users who are new or who only have casual interest, and adds > confusion considering that there's an advanced mode/menu within the Advanced > mode. "Intro

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-18 Thread Trilo Byte
It requires two restarts, doesn't it? One to quit and exit and restart to the login screen, and then a second once you make the mode switch to advanced. It's a great idea, but the execution needs some work. My concerns/impressions so far: 1) As with a lot of other software, a significant chun

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-17 Thread Moriz Gupte
Wondering if the ability to create a user's own spotlights is desirable? That would add an extra control point to the UI which we do not want ... may be. I think we will find that some UI features in the basic mode will migrate to the advanced mode as they are found to be useful not only for newcom

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-17 Thread Daniel
Does the "Advanced" menu in the "Advanced" mode get renamed to "Expert" or something to avoid confusion? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-17 Thread Yoz Grahame
On 16 March 2011 20:25, Yoz Grahame wrote: > > You can switch between Basic and Advanced mode on the login screen. > Switching currently requires a viewer restart; we're looking into ways to > make that easier, though that may not be achievable for the 2.6 release. > Sorry, I should make sure to

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-16 Thread Moriz Gupte
This is a great move, we've been looking forward to this for years. Am thinking hot swap between modes without a restart could be a plus, a separate smaller basic client could also be desirable ...I think. one thing though, when I launched 2.6.1 in the basic mode, clicking on myavatar just produces

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-16 Thread Yoz Grahame
On 16 March 2011 17:45, Patnad Babii wrote: > A viewer like this is good, but seriously should be part of the SAME > viewer as the other use. Simply have it with a button to switch between the > Easy, Fast and Fun mode or Advanced mode. The viewer is already like 30 meg > to download so, 10 meg

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-16 Thread Hitomi Tiponi
Played with it a bit more and am now less worried about my point 4 as the 'How To' describes walking the normal way. There is the oddity that you can get the inventory to appear if you get given an object, rather than a nc - but then there is no way to get it back again - can see that will need

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-16 Thread Patnad Babii
A viewer like this is good, but seriously should be part of the SAME viewer as the other use. Simply have it with a button to switch between the Easy, Fast and Fun mode or Advanced mode. The viewer is already like 30 meg to download so, 10 megs more should’nt be a big challenge for most of the u

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm 2.6.1 with Advanced and Basic mode

2011-03-16 Thread tinselsilvera
Just wanted to second OO's comments. I concur that this is a great step towards easing the newbie experience. The basic mode shows great promise. I too would like to see more on this subject. Well done to the Dev team! -- Tinsel Silvera Spoke n' Cog, Owner - Second Life & Open Sim Virtual World