Sorry for the late response, I've just gotten the chance to test this as well.
Looks and works great, seems intuitive. I love the popup notification (as well
as the ability to choose not to see it again next time). I also experienced a
short delay on the Mac client, though the delay was only
Seems to work fine Jonathan. I had no trouble with the notification lagging.
>There is an updated version of the draw distance review viewer here:
>http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_project-1/rev/233253/index.html
>l
...
> The only other tester than myself (Oz) re
There is an updated version of the draw distance review viewer here:
http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_project-1/rev/233253/index.html
Changes include slightly better artwork, re-repositioning of the
icon's location, and if you exceed 280m a notification (which you
ched) - but something like that says
'landscape'
> > or 'plants' to me.
> >
> >
> > From: Argent Stonecutter
> > To: Hitomi Tiponi
> > Cc: a...@skyhighway.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> >
this just in from my wife:
the globe icon that's used for "places" in the new search would be a
nice choice:
small globe on the left for "short draw distance", large globe on the
right for "large draw distance".
bye,
LC
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> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:49, Hitomi Tiponi
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Yes it's possible (see attached) - but something like that says
> > > 'landscape' or 'plants' to me.
> > >
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Thus far I'm in favor of the eye icon. Lately I've been using the
Unreal Developers Kit a lot for classwork, and there is even a 8x8 or
so eye icon that is still legible, though most of the eye icons are
larger. None have lashes, just the arcs and iris dot.
Once the icon is set, people will get u
o: Hitomi Tiponi
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> > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider
> >
> > On 2011-06-12, at 17:30, Hitomi Tiponi
d) - but something like that says 'landscape'
> or 'plants' to me.
>
>
> From: Argent Stonecutter
> To: Hitomi Tiponi
> Cc: a...@skyhighway.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> Sent: Mon, 13 June, 2011 1:58:54
> Subje
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider
On 2011-06-12, at 17:30, Hitomi Tiponi wrote:
> /me looks forward to seeing someone draw this one in a 16x16 pixel grid :)
I think three small pine trees could be rendered in a 16x16 grid.
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On 2011-06-12, at 17:30, Hitomi Tiponi wrote:
> /me looks forward to seeing someone draw this one in a 16x16 pixel grid :)
I think three small pine trees could be rendered in a 16x16 grid.
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ave that symbol used for Search and
also for Zoom on the World Map, and it isn't really a 'zoom' feature
From: Argent Stonecutter
To: Hitomi Tiponi
Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com; a...@skyhighway.com
Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 16:38:35
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Review view
What would directly tell people what the slider does is a ground outline
on the terrain showing how far away items will be shown (similar to
property lines ie shown directly on the ground). Along with things
starting to appear or vanish as they play with the slider, there should
be no confusio
How about a camera iris?
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Agreed regarding the magnifying glass icon - it's used both in SL and in some
browsers as an icon representing Search.
The problem with using a 1 tree/many trees approach is that a) that's already
used to denote zoom, not viewing distance, and b) that type of display works
best when it's on e
oom on the World Map, and it isn't really a 'zoom' feature
From: Argent Stonecutter
To: Hitomi Tiponi
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Sent: Sun, 12 June, 2011 16:38:35
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider
I think the icon sho
On 2011-06-12, at 10:42, Hitomi Tiponi wrote:
> Trouble with that is that LL already have that symbol [[magnifying glass]]
> used for Search and also for Zoom on the World Map, and it isn't really a
> 'zoom' feature.
You're right. Suggestion withdrawn.
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I think the icon should be a magnifying glass.
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I think the icon should be a magnifying glass.
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Use a tooltip for the text, and have it trigger as soon as the slider is
interacted with, and persist for several seconds after. That way,
there's informational text that follows the mouse cursor from the moment
the user starts interacting with it, until they stop - and several
seconds more.
That
Jonathan Welch
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 7:09 PM
> Cc: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider
>
> While testing the updated graphic I've been looking at the cautionary
> wording on the slider and am not happy w
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:59 PM, wrote:
>
> > The binocs idea for the icon is the best! It's totally like the average
> > person is going to think about it. And it's the way our eyes work.
>
>
> I have serious concerns (based only on the screenshot posted earlier):
> * By elevating this op
While testing the updated graphic I've been looking at the cautionary
wording on the slider and am not happy with it. There is no good way
to align the text so it looks nice in all languages and the width of
the slider would have to be wide enough to support the longest word in
whatever language t
Today, novice users are already hurting themselves by a much larger measure.
At the earliest stages, they're directed by other residents to click the
advanced button and right away change the slider. Not only are they
potentially hurting themselves with the slider, but there are a wide range o
I added in the labels and have been thinking about i10n issues with
them. Would be better to use a graphic or else have some other window
appear with a warning message?
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Love OO's idea of the labels - that should do a lot to offset Josh's, very
reasonable, concerns.
Also - maybe move it the other side of the 'Lindens' fields to show that it
isn't just another audio/media setting.
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On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 17:46, Joshua Bell wrote:
> I think it's a very cool idea and conceptually love the design, but please
> proceed with caution. At the risk of making the implementation more
> difficult, I'd suggest adding labels along the lines of "See More (Slower)"
> "See Less (Faster)"
I too am a bit worried that novice viewer users will hurt themselves
with this slider in an easily accessible place.
How about tying the presence of the control to only show when the
Advanced menu has been enabled (in addition or instead of the warning
labels Joshua has suggested)?
Presumably som
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:59 PM, wrote:
> The binocs idea for the icon is the best! It's totally like the average
> person is going to think about it. And it's the way our eyes work.
I have serious concerns (based only on the screenshot posted earlier):
* By elevating this option to the top
If you like Snowglobe v1, then why aren't you using
Singularity? http://www.singularityviewer.org/downloads
It's been worked on hard to make it entirely Viewer 2 engine
with a viewer 1 UI. It's perfect. It's also incredibly
much faster due to other improvements ;)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:59:38 -07
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Subject: [opensource-dev] Review viewer -- draw distance slider
Guys, the whole thing with the easily accessible slider for draw distance
is rea
Guys, the whole thing with the easily accessible slider for draw distance
is really great! Inspiring, actually. It's almost enough to make me
wanna try out the v2 viewer again. i hope the feature gets back-ported to
Snowglobe v1 by someone better at that stuff than me.
The binocs idea for the i
Those binoculars were just something I picked up quickly not expecting
they would be a permanent solution.
Later I experimented with a few eyes, but 1) the color has to work in
shades of grey and 2) has to be scaled down to 16px*16px, so oblong
shapes don't fare very well.
-jonathan
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I think the icon may be less intuitive. Without taking a few minutes or
knowing it was probably some kind of eye, I don't know that I would have
figured it out (as it was, it took me a little while). Jonathan's
binoculars (if done in white against the UI bgnd) ore maybe the inverse of
this image.
Just knocked this up by modding the xml you did - see what you think Jonathan.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/5819291026_895c9231da.jpg
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Please
It's a little disturbing to me that someone within LL would not see this as
a must-have feature.
Without having access to the crash report data, my guess would be that a
very significant portion of Viewer crashes are the result of the viewer
getting overwhelmed by requests (often because someone h
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 14:02, Jonathan Welch wrote:
> There is discussion within LL if this will be taken in. The concerns
> are for new residents 1) having too many options on the screen and 2)
> performance or experience issues if the slider is moved too far in
> either direction.
Since Basi
In case you missed the message from Oz in a different thread here is
the review viewer for the proposed draw distance slider:
http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_project-3/rev/232119/index.html
There is a temporary binocular graphic next to volume slider where you
ac
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