Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-23 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:38:32 +0100, Altair "Sythos" Memo wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:48:21 +0100 > Laurent Bechir wrote: > > >> Perhaps Linden should put something like "You will have a better >> experience with Second Life if you choose NVidia graphic card". I >> know it's quite stupid, b

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-22 Thread Sythos
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:48:21 +0100 Laurent Bechir wrote: > Perhaps Linden should put something like "You will have a better > experience with Second Life if you choose NVidia graphic card". I > know it's quite stupid, but from what I've read there is not a chance > that we get good support for

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-22 Thread Dave Booth
On 11/22/2010 15:48, Laurent Bechir wrote: > > Perhaps Linden should put something like "You will have a better > experience with Second Life if you choose NVidia graphic card". I know > it's quite stupid, but from what I've read there is not a chance that we > get good support for ATI cards and dy

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-22 Thread Laurent Bechir
Laurent Bechir a écrit : > Being an ATI fanboy I had to pull the full brunt of the bad opengl > support and it has changed my mind about their software side. The > support for OpenGL had been stiffled ever since OpenGL had lost the > lead starting in 2007 or so. One of the examples that affect

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-20 Thread Nexii Malthus
Being an ATI fanboy I had to pull the full brunt of the bad opengl support and it has changed my mind about their software side. The support for OpenGL had been stiffled ever since OpenGL had lost the lead starting in 2007 or so. One of the examples that affected my ability to use OpenGL applicatio

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-19 Thread Laurent Bechir
Trilo Byte a écrit : > Side note, Dave's comment about all Macs shipping with ATI cards is > inaccurate. Something approaching 3/4 of the units sold over the last > few years have been portables, and all the portables since at least > late 2008 have had nVidia graphics. As you say it'been f

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-19 Thread lonetorus Habilis
another side of this issue might also be the notoriously bad opengl support from apple. this came to light when the steam platform was released earlier this year for mac. people saw that performance under mac was about 1/3 compared to the same games under windows. i believe the conclusion was that

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-19 Thread Trilo Byte
As far as I'm aware, the ATI and shadow issue is something that's affected ATI (AMD) users on Windows platform as well as Mac... which would lead one to believe it's an issue for AMD more than it would be for Apple (Apple fine tunes and handles distribution of the drivers, but the driver codebas

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-18 Thread Laurent Bechir
Geenz Spad a écrit : > Your best bet is to complain directly to Apple with a repro case. The > mesh beta viewer seems to fix the FBO issues on OS X. AFAIK, AMD > only writes the hardware drivers for their cards on OS X, Apple > handles the OpenGL bits and pieces across both AMD and Nvidia h

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-18 Thread Geenz Spad
Your best bet is to complain directly to Apple with a repro case. The mesh beta viewer seems to fix the FBO issues on OS X. AFAIK, AMD only writes the hardware drivers for their cards on OS X, Apple handles the OpenGL bits and pieces across both AMD and Nvidia hardware. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-18 Thread Laurent Bechir
Dave Booth a écrit : On 11/13/2010 06:04, Laurent Bechir wrote: Is it a hardware problem of ATI or just a software problem that can be solved by SL developers ? ATIs drivers have bugs - ATI + OpenGL FBOs = crash or render artifacts or both. Who is responsible in that case ? Apple or ATI/A

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-14 Thread Glen Canaday
Oh, for the record - I did have dynamic shadows working on an ATI HD2600 on Ubuntu 9.10. It was slow and horrible, but it worked. I have screenshots, somewhere. --GC On Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:17:15 am Dave Booth wrote: > On 11/13/2010 06:04, Laurent Bechir wrote: > > Is it a hardware p

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-14 Thread Glen Canaday
They used to be so much better... on Linux, anyway. I wonder what happened. --GC On Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:17:15 am Dave Booth wrote: > On 11/13/2010 06:04, Laurent Bechir wrote: > > Is it a hardware problem of ATI or just a software problem that can be > > solved by SL developers ? > >

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-13 Thread Dave Booth
On 11/13/2010 06:04, Laurent Bechir wrote: > > Is it a hardware problem of ATI or just a software problem that can be > solved by SL developers ? ATIs drivers have bugs - ATI + OpenGL FBOs = crash or render artifacts or both. ___ Policies and (un)subscr

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-13 Thread Laurent Bechir
Rob Nelson a écrit : > You're better off getting a new card, since the card doesn't support > dynamic shadows, not the other way around. > > Rob Is it a hardware problem of ATI or just a software problem that can be solved by SL developers ? ___ Polic

Re: [opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-13 Thread Rob Nelson
You're better off getting a new card, since the card doesn't support dynamic shadows, not the other way around. Rob On 11/13/2010 3:35 AM, Laurent Bechir wrote: > Hello, > > Anyone can tell me when Dynamic shadows will support ATI card, please ? > I'm actually wondering what is the best if I wan

[opensource-dev] Dynamic shadows and ATI

2010-11-13 Thread Laurent Bechir
Hello, Anyone can tell me when Dynamic shadows will support ATI card, please ? I'm actually wondering what is the best if I want to use them, change my ATI for a Nvidia or wait it's supported. Thank you ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information avai