Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:40, Christopher Barker wrote: > Robert Kern wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 07:15, Darren Dale wrote: >> We aren't supposed to break APIs that aren't related to the 2-3 >> transition. PEP3118 is related to the 2-3 transition. Since I'm that >> somebody that always pipes u

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Christopher Barker
Robert Kern wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 07:15, Darren Dale wrote: > We aren't supposed to break APIs that aren't related to the 2-3 > transition. PEP3118 is related to the 2-3 transition. Since I'm that > somebody that always pipes up about this topic, I'm pretty sure it > hasn't been PEP3118-r

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > Darren Dale wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Dale wrote: Hi David, > I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: > - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Darren Dale
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeau >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> > >> >>> I already gave my own opinion on py

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Darren Dale wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >>> Hi David, I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/scipy developer has expressed

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Darren Dale wrote: > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Dale wrote: > >> Hi David, > > > >>> I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: > >>> - it is a huge effort, and no c

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 07:15, Darren Dale wrote: > Another topic concerning documentation is API compatibility. The > python devs have requested projects not use the 2-3 transition as an > excuse to change their APIs, but numpy is maybe a special case. I'm > thinking about PEP3118. Is numpy going

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-09 Thread Darren Dale
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >> Hi David, > >>> I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: >>>  - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/scipy developer has >>> expressed the urge to transition t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >  - it remains to be seen whether we can do the py3k support in the > same source tree as the one use for python >= 2.4. Having two source > trees would make the effort even much bigger, well over the current > developers capacity IMHO. I k

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Darren Dale wrote: > Hi David, >> I already gave my own opinion on py3k, which can be summarized as: >>  - it is a huge effort, and no core numpy/scipy developer has >> expressed the urge to transition to py3k, since py3k does not bring >> much for scientific comput

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Dale
Hi David, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:08 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >> I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's >> toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching >> the Python Software Foundation abou

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Darren Dale wrote: > I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's > toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching > the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working > with python-3? I already gave my

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Charles R Harris
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Christian Heimes wrote: > Darren Dale wrote: > > I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's > > toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching > > the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Christian Heimes
Darren Dale wrote: > I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's > toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching > the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working > with python-3? What kind of support are you talking about? Develo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Dale
Hi David, On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, David Warde-Farley wrote: > Hey Darren, > > On 8-Sep-09, at 3:21 PM, Darren Dale wrote: > >> I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's >> toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching >> the Python Software Fo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread David Warde-Farley
Hey Darren, On 8-Sep-09, at 3:21 PM, Darren Dale wrote: > I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's > toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching > the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working > with python-3? It's a grea

[Numpy-discussion] question about future support for python-3

2009-09-08 Thread Darren Dale
I'm not a core numpy developer and don't want to step on anybody's toes here. But I was wondering if anyone had considered approaching the Python Software Foundation about support to help get numpy working with python-3? Thanks, Darren ___ NumPy-Discussi