On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:00:05 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
[clip]
> One question though: is 0.9.0 API and backward compatible with 0.8.0? I
> see we have a couple of dozen reverse dependencies on python-scipy, so
> if there's any chance that 0.9.0 would break those dependencies, we may
> have to push
On Feb 11, 2011, at 01:57 PM, Robert Kern wrote:
>If you are going to do an Ubuntu-only fix, would that allow using our
>prebuilt doc packages? IIRC, the only objection to that was that it was
>Debian policy to build docs from sources. But then again, that might have
>just been the first objection
Hi Ralf,
On Feb 12, 2011, at 06:12 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote:
> Now that you're here to discuss Ubuntu packaging, can you tell us if you or
>another packager plan to include scipy 0.9.0 in Natty if it's released on
>time? Final release is planned for the weekend of 19/20 Feb.
Feature freeze for Nat
Hi Barry,
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> I hope this message is on-topic for this mailing list!
>
> I'm working on the packaging for python-numpy 1.5 in the next version of
> Ubuntu (11.04 - Natty), and I'm hitting an issue that I'm hoping you can
> help
> me with.
>
> No
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:40:57 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> [clip]
> > Neither will be acceptable I think. Prebuilt by upstream won't fly
> > for Debian because they'd want the source and build process, and I
> > don't see a feasible way for t
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 13:47, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> The downside is that it probably means Ubuntu would more or less permanently
> diverge from Debian for numpy, which would be unfortunate for many reasons. I
> can certainly appreciate that from both upstream's and Debian's perspective,
> nothi
On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Bruce Southey wrote:
>If Ubuntu's different repositories are a problem then that is Ubuntu's
>own fault for putting the numpy and matplotlib in different repositories
>(that applies to other distros as well). Clearly someone did not do
>their homework before doing
On Feb 11, 2011, at 05:50 PM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
>The point is that the Ubuntu build servers cannot build the
>documentation, because matplotlib is not available at build time. (First,
>because matplotlib depends circularly on Numpy, and second, since by
>policy Numpy build cannot depend on
On Feb 11, 2011, at 06:45 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 16:40, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> For Debian, we'd simply take those two separate source packages and split the
>> binary packages among them as appropriate.
>
>excuse me? I don't like this solution, or are you going to do all
Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:06:42 -0600, Bruce Southey wrote:
[clip: numpy/doc/*]
> But that directory is still not sufficient for having the documentation
> alone.
It is, given a build-time dependency on the main Numpy package.
Pauli
___
NumPy-Discuss
On 02/11/2011 11:50 AM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:34:16 -0600, Bruce Southey wrote:
> [clip]
>> I agree with Pauli, if Ubuntu wants the user to be able build the
>> documentation then Ubuntu would have to create a special package with
>> just the numpy documentation that includes
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:34, Bruce Southey wrote:
> The apparent problem occurs when the user has to build the documentation
> from source as sphinx and matlibplot are dependencies.
No, please reread the original post.
--
Robert Kern
"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma
Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:34:16 -0600, Bruce Southey wrote:
[clip]
> I agree with Pauli, if Ubuntu wants the user to be able build the
> documentation then Ubuntu would have to create a special package with
> just the numpy documentation that includes the necessary dependencies
> (including numpy, matlib
>> We can't put python-matplotlib in main because of *its* dependencies.
>>
>
> As a digression, I think the python-matplotlib dependencies could be
> significantly reduced. For a number of use cases (this is one of them,
> but there are others), you don't need any GUI backend. Independent of
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 16:40, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> For Debian, we'd simply take those two separate source packages and split the
> binary packages among them as appropriate.
excuse me? I don't like this solution, or are you going to do all the
work in Debian to adapt to this proposal?
You have
On 02/11/2011 10:11 AM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:07:25 +0100, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
>> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:40:57 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: [clip]
>>> Neither will be acceptable I think. Prebuilt by upstream won't fly for
>>> Debian because they'd want the source and build proce
Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:07:25 +0100, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:40:57 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: [clip]
>> Neither will be acceptable I think. Prebuilt by upstream won't fly for
>> Debian because they'd want the source and build process, and I don't
>> see a feasible way for them to b
Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:40:57 -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
[clip]
> Neither will be acceptable I think. Prebuilt by upstream won't fly
> for Debian because they'd want the source and build process, and I
> don't see a feasible way for them to be prebuilt by Ubuntu that's any
> different than the current
On Friday, February 11, 2011, Benjamin Root wrote:
> On Friday, February 11, 2011, Jouni K. Seppänen wrote:
>> [Crossposting to matplotlib devel list]
>>
>> Robert Kern writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:22, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>>
Here's the problem: for Ubuntu, we've had to disabl
On Feb 11, 2011, at 05:18 PM, Jouni K. Seppänen wrote:
>[Crossposting to matplotlib devel list]
>
>Robert Kern writes:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:22, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the problem: for Ubuntu, we've had to disable the building of
>>> the numpy documentation package, because
On Friday, February 11, 2011, Jouni K. Seppänen wrote:
> [Crossposting to matplotlib devel list]
>
> Robert Kern writes:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:22, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the problem: for Ubuntu, we've had to disable the building of
>>> the numpy documentation package, becaus
Hi Robert,
On Feb 10, 2011, at 04:39 PM, Robert Kern wrote:
>As a digression, I think the python-matplotlib dependencies could be
>significantly reduced. For a number of use cases (this is one of them,
>but there are others), you don't need any GUI backend. Independent of
>this issue, it would be
On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:26 PM, Pauli Virtanen wrote:
>Without matplotlib, you won't get any graphs in the documentation.
>Ubuntu users will then miss out e.g. on illustrations of various
>probability distributions. The figures are not absolutely necessary, but
>I wouldn't like to see that to happen
[Crossposting to matplotlib devel list]
Robert Kern writes:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:22, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>
>> Here's the problem: for Ubuntu, we've had to disable the building of
>> the numpy documentation package, because its dependencies violate
>> Ubuntu policy. Numpy is in our "mai
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:22, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> Here's the problem: for Ubuntu, we've had to disable the building of the numpy
> documentation package, because its dependencies violate Ubuntu policy. Numpy
> is in our "main" archive but the documentation depends on python-matplotlib,
> whic
to, 2011-02-10 kello 12:22 -0500, Barry Warsaw kirjoitti:
[clip: Ubuntu cannot put matplotlib needed by Numpy docs into main]
> This lets me get through the build of the docs without the dependency on
> matplotlib, and a cursory look at the documentation looks pretty good.
>
> I'm inclined to prop
I hope this message is on-topic for this mailing list!
I'm working on the packaging for python-numpy 1.5 in the next version of
Ubuntu (11.04 - Natty), and I'm hitting an issue that I'm hoping you can help
me with.
For reference, the two relevant bugs are:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour
27 matches
Mail list logo
