Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

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2010/5/27 Friedrich Romstedt : > I just want to say that I used Git on Windows without any problem > using a minGW built Git, i.e. msysgit: Hm, I read the other thread too late to recognise this to be discussed already - Sorry And hey, even Windows has Tab completion of path names, even in the, a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

Hi, > Maybe most importantly, distributed revision control places any > possible contributor on equal footing with those with commit access; > this is one important step in making contributors feel valued. I think this is a very important point, but subtle. I realize that's a dangerous combinati

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

I just want to say that I used Git on Windows without any problem using a minGW built Git, i.e. msysgit: http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/downloads/list The only problem I see is that with CR / CRLF / LF. When one installs msysgit, one can choose what procedure to take - to commit to the repo wi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > >> On 05/27/2010 02:16 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anne Archibald >> > mailto:aarch...@physics.mcgill.ca>> wrote: >> > >> > On 27 M

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Anne Archibald wrote: > * Set up a git repository somewhere on scipy.org. It's a minor point, but setting up and maintaining our own git repository will require extra work without gaining anything useful. Github has a number of very useful features and is gaining

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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:28 AM, Anne Archibald wrote: > To get back to the original point of the thread: nobody has yet > objected to git, and all we have are some debates about the ultimate > workflow that don't make much difference to whether or how git should > be adopted. Is this a fair descr

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On 27 May 2010 04:43, Charles R Harris wrote: > >> Maybe most importantly, distributed revision control places any >> possible contributor on equal footing with those with commit access; >> this is one important step in making contributors feel valued. >> > > Well, not quite. They can't commit to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On 27 May 2010 00:43, Charles R Harris wrote: > Well, not quite. They can't commit to the main repository. I think the main > thing is to be responsive: fast review, quick commit. And quick to offer > commit rights to anyone who sends in more that a couple of decent patches. At the moment, giving

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

2010/5/27 Stéfan van der Walt > On 26 May 2010 23:27, Charles R Harris wrote: > > Exactly. I had a private bet with myself that that would be the case. > See, > > it isn't so much different after all. The tools change, but the problems > and > > solutions remain much the same. > > In this case,

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On 26 May 2010 23:27, Charles R Harris wrote: > Exactly. I had a private bet with myself that that would be the case. See, > it isn't so much different after all. The tools change, but the problems and > solutions remain much the same. In this case, I believe the tool may be part of the solution.

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Hi, >> Having said that - it will of course happen that you ask for review >> and no-one responds.  That's not a very big problem, because git >> merges are so easy that you can - as Anne said earlier - just keep on >> developing without worrying that your changes will go out of date. >> But if th

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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > > How does that differ from what we do now? Review? I develop in my own > > branches as is. > > Right - so - then do you always ask for a review from someone before > merging into trunk? If so, then git is just a much more fluid, >

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Hi, > How does that differ from what we do now? Review? I develop in my own > branches as is. Right - so - then do you always ask for a review from someone before merging into trunk? If so, then git is just a much more fluid, reliable and faster tool to do what you are doing now. > True, but wh

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > > No, I am saying we need at least five people who can commit to the main > > repo. That is the central repository model. > > Excellent - yes - that's reasonable. Then if you also agree to this: > > > No development in the main repo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > > No, I am saying we need at least five people who can commit to the main > > repo. That is the central repository model. > > Excellent - yes - that's reasonable. Then if you also agree to this: > > > No development in the main repo

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Hi, > No, I am saying we need at least five people who can commit to the main > repo. That is the central repository model. Excellent - yes - that's reasonable. Then if you also agree to this: > No development in the main repo. Merges only. then we're all in full agreement. > Review is fine,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > > No, at this point we don't have a release manager, we haven't since 1.2. > We > > have people who do the builds and put them up on sourceforge, but they > > aren't release managers, they don't decide what is in the release or > > o

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On 05/27/2010 02:34 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > An automatic gatekeeper is pretty much a > central repository, as I was suggesting. I don't understand how centraly repository comes into this discussion - nobody has been arguing against it. The question is whether we would continue to push ind

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:28 PM, David wrote: > On 05/27/2010 02:16 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anne Archibald > > mailto:aarch...@physics.mcgill.ca>> wrote: > > > > On 27 May 2010 01:55, Matthew Brett > > wro

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Hi, > No, at this point we don't have a release manager, we haven't since 1.2. We > have people who do the builds and put them up on sourceforge, but they > aren't release managers, they don't decide what is in the release or > organise the effort. We haven't had a central figure since Travis got

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On 05/27/2010 02:16 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anne Archibald > mailto:aarch...@physics.mcgill.ca>> wrote: > > On 27 May 2010 01:55, Matthew Brett > wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> Linux has Linus, ipython has

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anne Archibald wrote: > On 27 May 2010 01:55, Matthew Brett wrote: > > Hi, > > > >> Linux has Linus, ipython has Fernando, nipy has... well, I'm sure it is > >> somebody. Numpy and Scipy no longer have a central figure and I like it > that > >> way. There is no

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On 27 May 2010 01:55, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > >> Linux has Linus, ipython has Fernando, nipy has... well, I'm sure it is >> somebody. Numpy and Scipy no longer have a central figure and I like it that >> way. There is no reason that DVCS has to inevitably lead to a central >> authority. > > I

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Hi, > Linux has Linus, ipython has Fernando, nipy has... well, I'm sure it is > somebody. Numpy and Scipy no longer have a central figure and I like it that > way. There is no reason that DVCS has to inevitably lead to a central > authority. I think I was trying to say that the way it looks as if

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Anne Archibald wrote: > On 27 May 2010 01:22, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Jarrod Millman > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Matthew Brett > > >> wrote: > >> > That's the model we've gone for in nipy a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On 27 May 2010 01:22, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Jarrod Millman > wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Matthew Brett >> wrote: >> > That's the model we've gone for in nipy and ipython too.  We wrote it >> > up in a workflow doc project.  Here are the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

Hi, >> I would highly recommend using this workflow.  Ideally, we should use >> the same git workflow for all the scipy-related projects.  That way >> developers can switch between projects without having to switch >> workflows.  The model that Matthew and Fernando developed for nipy and >> ipytho

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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Benjamin Root wrote: > I wouldn't call myself a developer, but I have been wanting to contribute > recently.  I learned source control with svn, so I am much more comfortable > with it.  My one attempt at using git for a personal project ended in > failure. > > The

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Jarrod Millman wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Matthew Brett > wrote: > > That's the model we've gone for in nipy and ipython too. We wrote it > > up in a workflow doc project. Here are the example docs giving the > > git workflow for ipython: > > > >

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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > That's the model we've gone for in nipy and ipython too.  We wrote it > up in a workflow doc project.  Here are the example docs giving the > git workflow for ipython: > > https://cirl.berkeley.edu/mb312/gitwash/ > > and in particular: > > ht

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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Bruce Southey wrote: > All that I ask is that there is one official place to do 'git clone' > or 'git pull' from a single official branch. I do not think that it is > good to tell users to pull from different branches especially if these > branches have conflicts.

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Hi, > It seems to me that git's flexibility in how people collaborate means > we can do a certain amount of figuring out after the switch. This is very well said and true to our recent experience with nipy and ipython: http://github.com/ipython/ipython http://github.com/nipy/nipy > My > experie

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

I wouldn't call myself a developer, but I have been wanting to contribute recently. I learned source control with svn, so I am much more comfortable with it. My one attempt at using git for a personal project ended in failure. Then I discovered this guide, "Git-SVN Crash Course": http://git.or.c

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Hi Jarrod, I'm in favour of the switch, though I don't use Windows. I find git far more convenient to use than SVN; I've been using git-svn, and in spite of the headaches it's caused me I still prefer it to raw SVN. It seems to me that git's flexibility in how people collaborate means we can do a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Bruce Southey wrote: > 2010/5/26 Stéfan van der Walt : >> On 26 May 2010 16:12, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> I changed the subject line for this thread, since I didn't want to >>> hijack another thread.  Anyway, I am not proposing that we actually >>> decide whethe

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

2010/5/26 Stéfan van der Walt : > On 26 May 2010 16:12, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> I changed the subject line for this thread, since I didn't want to >> hijack another thread.  Anyway, I am not proposing that we actually >> decide whether to move to git and github now, but I am just curious >> how

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On 26 May 2010 16:12, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I changed the subject line for this thread, since I didn't want to > hijack another thread.  Anyway, I am not proposing that we actually > decide whether to move to git and github now, but I am just curious > how people would feel.  We had a conversat

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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I think we are ready for such a move.    Someone should think about the > implications, though (with Trac integration, check-in mailings, etc.) and > make sure we get something we all like.   Somebody probably has thought > through all of t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

On May 26, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Jarrod Millman wrote: Hello, I changed the subject line for this thread, since I didn't want to hijack another thread. Anyway, I am not proposing that we actually decide whether to move to git and github now, but I am just curious how people would feel. We had a

[Numpy-discussion] curious about how people would feel about moving to github

Hello, I changed the subject line for this thread, since I didn't want to hijack another thread. Anyway, I am not proposing that we actually decide whether to move to git and github now, but I am just curious how people would feel. We had a conversation about this a few years ago and it was quit