Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-09 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:40 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are > talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... In scikit-image we use the following script to check for the most basic discrepancies: https://github.com/sci

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-06 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Julian Taylor wrote: > On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor > > mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > The efforts are on average

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Bryan Van de Ven
Speaking as someone who started but then stopped dabbling in the NumPy C core, having to think about two build system is a huge turn-off. Getting into the NumPy C code is hard enough without having to worry about multiple build systems. Bryan On Jul 5, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 7/5/2014 6:42 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > What next, we give Alan Isaac commit rights and then it's OK to break > numpy.matrix when that's convenient? I always wondered what I would do with commit rights ... Alan ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list Nu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> > >> On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers" wrote: > >> Perhaps a compromise would be to declare it officially unsuppo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Julian Taylor wrote: > On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor > > mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > The efforts are on average

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Julian Taylor
On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor > mailto:jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com>> > wrote: > > On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: > > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are > > talking about a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor wrote: > On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: > > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are > > talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... > > > > Also, while adding the optimization support for bento,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Julian Taylor
On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote: > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are > talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... > > Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've noticed that > a lot of the related distutils code is brok

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We are talking about adding entries to a list in most cases... Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've noticed that a lot of the related distutils code is broken, and does not work as expected on at least OS X + cl

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> Maybe bento will revive and take over the new python packaging world! >> Maybe not. Maybe something else will. I don't see how our support for >> it will really affect these o

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Matthew Brett > wrote: > >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Matthew Brett
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers >> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers"

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> > >> On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers" wrote: > >> > > >> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers" wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers" wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Ralf likes the spe

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers" wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris < charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained >> >> >> What exactly is no

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Julian Taylor
On 05.07.2014 11:02, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 A

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Gommers > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris < >>> charlesr.har...@gmail.com>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris < >> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 10:13 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained >> > > What exactly is not maintained ? > The issue is that Julian made

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-05 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained > What exactly is not maintained ? David ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/ma

[Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

2014-07-04 Thread Charles R Harris
Ralf likes the speed of bento, but it is not currently maintained and does not properly build numpy with all the optimizations added by Julian. I find the usual setup.py method fast enough and it has the advantage that all the numpy developers can deal with it. Thoughts? Chuck ___