Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread David Cournapeau
Neil Crighton wrote: > David Cournapeau gmail.com> writes: > > > David Cournapeau wrote: > >> (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >> thread) >> - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am >> against it wit

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Sebastian Haase
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Neil Crighton wrote: > > David Cournapeau gmail.com> writes: > > > >>> David Cournapeau wrote: > > >>> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator > > >>> > thread) > > >>> >     - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Darren Dale
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Neil Crighton wrote: > David Cournapeau gmail.com> writes: > > > >>> David Cournapeau wrote: > > >>> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator > > >>> > thread) > > >>> > - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Neil Crighton
David Cournapeau gmail.com> writes: > >>> David Cournapeau wrote: > >>> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator > >>> > thread) > >>> >     - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am > >>> > against it without a very strong and detailed rationale,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Neil Crighton
David Cournapeau ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp> writes: > > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) > > Hi, > > I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy > 1.4.0. > Are there any other features people would like to put into numpy for 1.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread william ratcliff
I haven't used it, but you might try Rational Purify from IBM as a valgrind alternative on Windows. They used to have a free trial. Btw. Are there any docs that I can read on the issues involved in fortran-c-python bindings? Anything related to gfortran (fortran 95/2003) and python in particula

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Darren Dale
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Darren Dale wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Pierre GM wrote: >> > >> > On Jun 21, 2009, at 5:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> > >> >> (Continuing the discu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Darren Dale
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Pierre GM wrote: > > > > On Jun 21, 2009, at 5:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > >> (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator > >> thread) > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >>I would lik

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Charles R Harris
2009/6/22 Stéfan van der Walt : > 2009/6/22 David Cournapeau : >> My main motivation for an early numpy 1.4 is scipy 0.8.0. But if other >> people think numpy 1.4.0 as it is now is too 'weak', making scipy >> 0.8.0 compatible with numpy 1.3.0 is technically possible. Then we can >> talk about addin

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-22 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Pierre GM wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2009, at 5:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >> thread) >> >> Hi, >> >>    I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy >> 1.4.0. > > Is this

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
2009/6/22 David Cournapeau : > My main motivation for an early numpy 1.4 is scipy 0.8.0. But if other > people think numpy 1.4.0 as it is now is too 'weak', making scipy > 0.8.0 compatible with numpy 1.3.0 is technically possible. Then we can > talk about adding those features for numpy 1.4.0, and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Bruce Southey wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:01 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: >> >> (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) >> >> Hi, >> >>    I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy >> 1.4.0. >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Pierre GM wrote: > > On Jun 21, 2009, at 5:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >> thread) >> >> Hi, >> >>    I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy >> 1.4.0. > > Is this a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Pierre GM
On Jun 21, 2009, at 5:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator > thread) > > Hi, > >I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy > 1.4.0. Is this a wish list ? * As Darren mentioned, some __array_prepare__ me

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Warde-Farley
On 21-Jun-09, at 11:59 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> Can't really say at this point, but it is the suggested path to >> python-3. > > OTOH, I don't find the python 3 "official" transition story very > convincing. I have tried to gather all the information I could find, > both on the python wiki a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Robert wrote: > > I'd like even support for Python 2.3. Many basic libraries still > support 2.3 and many don't :) In my experience, the limit is often python 2.4 (which we still support). > And numpy is a very basic library. And what is in numpy (scipy) > that r

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I don't remember dropping support for 2.4.   When did that happen? It does work on 2.4, I regularly test numpy and scipy on RHEL 5 with 64 bits python 2.4. We dropped 2.3 support since 1.2 IIRC. David __

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Bruce Southey
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:01 AM, David Cournapeau < da...@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp> wrote: > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) > > Hi, > >I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy > 1.4.0. >- Chuck suggested to drop python < 2

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I don't remember dropping support for 2.4.   When did that happen? > > It didn't, numpy should still run with 2.4. If there is a problem I haven't heard about it. Chuck ___ Numpy-discussion maili

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Travis Oliphant
I don't remember dropping support for 2.4. When did that happen? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 21, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Robert wrote: > Lou Pecora wrote: >> I'm still using 2.4, but I plan to go to 2.5 when the project we're >> doing now reaches a stable point later this year. Not sure after >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Robert
Lou Pecora wrote: > I'm still using 2.4, but I plan to go to 2.5 when the project we're > doing now reaches a stable point later this year. Not sure after that. > I know it's real work to keep several versions going, but I sense there > are a lot of people in the 2.4 - 2.5 window. I guess 2.6

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Lou Pecora
hit. -- Lou Pecora, my views are my own. --- On Sun, 6/21/09, John Reid wrote: From: John Reid Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0 To: numpy-discussion@scipy.org Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 10:38 AM David Cournapeau wrote: > (Continuing the disc

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:59 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > Another suggestion is to avoid breaking the API when transitioning for > python 3. But that seems quite unrealistic. How do we deal with the > removing of string/long APIs ? ^ This should be int, of cours

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM, John Reid >> wrote: >>> >>> David Cournapeau wrote: >>> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >>> > thread) >>> >     -

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Darren Dale wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM, John Reid >> wrote: >>> >>> David Cournapeau wrote: >>> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >>> > thread) >>> >     -

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Darren Dale wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM, John Reid > wrote: >> >> David Cournapeau wrote: >> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >> > thread) >> >     - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Darren Dale wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM, John Reid > wrote: >> >> David Cournapeau wrote: >> > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator >> > thread) >> >     - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Darren Dale
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM, John Reid wrote: > David Cournapeau wrote: > > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) > > - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am > > against it without a very strong and detailed rationale, because m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread John Reid
David Cournapeau wrote: > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) > - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am > against it without a very strong and detailed rationale, because many OS > still don't have python 2.6 (RHEL, Ubuntu LTS). I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread Darren Dale
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:01 AM, David Cournapeau < da...@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp> wrote: > (Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) > > Hi, > >I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy > 1.4.0. >- Chuck suggested to drop python < 2

[Numpy-discussion] Plans for Numpy 1.4.0 and scipy 0.8.0

2009-06-21 Thread David Cournapeau
(Continuing the discussion initiated in the neighborhood iterator thread) Hi, I would like to gather people's opinion on what to target for numpy 1.4.0. - Chuck suggested to drop python < 2.6 support from now on. I am against it without a very strong and detailed rationale, because many O