Hi Fernando,
> I hope this (Travis' ideas teaser and all :) provides some better
> perspective on the recent enthusiasm regarding cython, as a tool
> complementary to ctypes that could greatly benefit numpy and scipy.
> If it doesn't it just means I did a poor job of communicating,
Nope, you did
Hi Joris,
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Joris De Ridder
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks. I've a few questions concerning the objections against ctypes.
> It's part of the Python standard library, brand new from v2.5, and it
> allows creating extensions. Disregarding it, requires therefor
Hi Robin,
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hadn't seen the link Ondrej provided, although the 40 hour week
> seems to be a Python/PSF requirement. Prior to posting I had checked
> the Google information, where they say the time commitment depends on
> both
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, william ratcliff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will Cython be compatible with OpenMP? I tried with weave some time back
> and failed miserably. Has anyone tried with ctypes?
As far as I know cython has no explicit OpenMP support, but it *may*
be possible to get it
Joris De Ridder wrote:
>
> Thanks. I've a few questions concerning the objections against ctypes.
> It's part of the Python standard library, brand new from v2.5, and it
> allows creating extensions. Disregarding it, requires therefore good
> arguments, I think. I trust you that there are, bu
Christopher Barker wrote:
> By the way, I know Greg Ewing was asked about better support for numpy
> arrays in Pyrex, and he said "I'm *definitely* not going to
> re-implement C++ templates!" -- is there talk of creating a way to write
> extensions that could operate on numpy arrays of arbitrary
Will Cython be compatible with OpenMP? I tried with weave some time back
and failed miserably. Has anyone tried with ctypes?
Cheers,
William
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Christopher Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Joris De Ridder wrote:
> > Thanks. I've a few questions concerning the o
Joris De Ridder wrote:
> Thanks. I've a few questions concerning the objections against ctypes.
It's not so much an abjection (I think), but the fact that pyrex/Cython
really are different beasts, with different goals.
> For ctypes your extensions needs to be
> compiled as a shared library,
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Robin,
>
> As Ondrej pointed out, the expectation is a full-time commitment to
> the project. Other than that it sounds like you might be able to
> participate, and it's worth noting that this being open source, if y
On 07 Mar 2008, at 10:02, Fernando Perez wrote:
> Chris B gave what I think is a good reply to this, but feel free to
> ask if you have further questions. I think it's important that we
> reach some consensus on why this a good idea on technical grounds
> without anyone feeling like the decision
On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Konrad Hinsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07.03.2008, at 09:59, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
> > I doubt it's much better, and that's part of the point of the project:
> > to identify the problems and fix them once and for all. Getting
> > anything fixed in pyrex
On 07.03.2008, at 09:59, Fernando Perez wrote:
> I doubt it's much better, and that's part of the point of the project:
> to identify the problems and fix them once and for all. Getting
> anything fixed in pyrex was hard due to a very opaque development
> process, but Cython is part of the Sage u
Hi Robin,
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any student interested in this should quickly respond on the list;
> > such a project would likely be co-mentored by people on the Numpy
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Joris De Ridder
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 06 Mar 2008, at 19:15, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
> > http://www.cython.org/
> > is an evolved version of Pyrex (which is used by numpy and scipy) with
> > lots of improvements. We'd like to position Cython as the p
Hi Pierre,
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Pierre GM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 06 March 2008 13:15:27 Fernando Perez wrote:
> > - Rewriting the existing ndarray subclasses that ship with numpy, such
> > as record arrays, in cython. In doing this, benchmarks of the
> > relat
I'm not a pyrex/Cython expert, but
Joris De Ridder wrote:
> Pyrex is kind of a dialect, so your extension modules would be nor
> python nor C, but a third language.
correct.
> Is this indeed easier to maintain?
yes, because while you can write C extensions in C, you need to use the
qui
On 06 Mar 2008, at 19:15, Fernando Perez wrote:
> http://www.cython.org/
> is an evolved version of Pyrex (which is used by numpy and scipy) with
> lots of improvements. We'd like to position Cython as the preferred
> way of writing most, if not all, new extension code written for numpy
> and sc
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any student interested in this should quickly respond on the list;
> > such a project would likely be co-mentored by people on the Numpy and
> >
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Fernando Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any student interested in this should quickly respond on the list;
> such a project would likely be co-mentored by people on the Numpy and
> Cython teams, since it is likely to require expertise from both ends.
Hello
On Thursday 06 March 2008 13:15:27 Fernando Perez wrote:
> - Rewriting the existing ndarray subclasses that ship with numpy, such
> as record arrays, in cython. In doing this, benchmarks of the
> relative performance of the new code should be obtained.
Fernando,
I remember having huge difficu
Fernando Perez wrote:
> after the Scipy/Sage Days 8 meeting, we were all very impressed by the
> progress made by Cython.
cool stuff!
> A specific project along these lines, that would be very beneficial
> for numpy could be:
Is there any way to set this up as a possible Google Summer of Co
Hi all,
after the Scipy/Sage Days 8 meeting, we were all very impressed by the
progress made by Cython. For those not familiar with it, Cython:
http://www.cython.org/
is an evolved version of Pyrex (which is used by numpy and scipy) with
lots of improvements. We'd like to position Cython
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