Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-08 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Oct 8, 2009, at 10:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: >> >> The problem I have with spending time on it though is that there is >> still >> more implementation work to finish on the datetime functionality to >> complete >> the NEP imp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-08 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > The problem I have with spending time on it though is that there is still > more implementation work to finish on the datetime functionality to complete > the NEP implementation.      Naturally, I'd like to see those improvements > made fi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-08 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:51 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > > I apologize for the mis communication that has occurred here. > > No problem > >   I did not > > understand that there w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-08 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:51 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: I apologize for the mis communication that has occurred here. No problem I did not understand that there was a desire to keep ABI compatibility with NumPy 1.3 when NumPy 1.4 wa

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-08 Thread David Cournapeau
Stéfan van der Walt wrote: > We can work on implementing that today. > I am working on it ATM - it is taking me longer than expected, though. David ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/n

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
2009/10/8 Charles R Harris : > code generator problem and doesn't call for a jump in major version. We hope > ;) I think David's hack, which looks to have been committed by Stefan, > should fix things up. I accidentally committed some of David's patches, but I reverted them back out. I think Davi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:06 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > Looks like a clue ;) > > > Ok, I fixed it here: > > http://github.com/cournape/numpy/tree/fix_abi > > But that's an

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 10/7/2009 10:57 PM, Robert Kern wrote: > it's "pimpl" OK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opaque_pointer Thanks, Alan Isaac ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Robert Kern
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 21:55, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> I would prefer passing to "numpy 2.0" when we really need to break ABI >> and API - at that point, I think we should also think hard about >> changing our structures and all to ma

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > I would prefer passing to "numpy 2.0" when we really need to break ABI > and API - at that point, I think we should also think hard about > changing our structures and all to make them more robust to those > changes (using pimp-like strat

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread David Cournapeau
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > I apologize for the mis communication that has occurred here. No problem >  I did not > understand that there was a desire to keep ABI compatibility with NumPy 1.3 > when NumPy 1.4 was released.    The datetime merge was made under that

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:06 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: Looks like a clue ;) Ok, I fixed it here: http://github.com/cournape/numpy/tree/fix_abi But that's an ugly hack. I think we should consider rewriting how we generate the API: inst

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:37 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Charles R Harris >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:37 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Charles R Harris >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM, David Cournapeau >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:37 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Looks like a clu

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Looks like a clue ;) >> >> Ok, I fixed it here: >> >> http://github.com/cournape/numpy/tree/fix_ab

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:06 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > Looks like a clue ;) > > Ok, I fixed it here: > > http://github.com/cournape/numpy/tree/fix_abi > > But that's an ugly hack. I think we should consider rewriting how we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-07 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > Looks like a clue ;) Ok, I fixed it here: http://github.com/cournape/numpy/tree/fix_abi But that's an ugly hack. I think we should consider rewriting how we generate the API: instead of automatically growing the API array of fptr, we

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread Charles R Harris
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM, David Cournapeau > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Charles R Harris > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > 2009/10/6 Sté

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread David Warde-Farley
On 6-Oct-09, at 12:50 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > The version itself is fine, but the ABI has been changed in an > incompatible way: if you have an extension built against say numpy > 1.2.1, and then use a numpy built from sources after the datetime > merge, it will segfault right away. It does

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Charles R Harris >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > 2009/10/6 Stéfan van der Walt >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread Charles R Harris
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > 2009/10/6 Stéfan van der Walt > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is broken and should not be used. > >> Extensions compiled against this version

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:36 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > 2009/10/6 Stéfan van der Walt >> >> Hi all, >> >> The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is broken and should not be used. >> Extensions compiled against this version may (will) segfault. >> > > Can you be more specific? I haven't had any probl

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
2009/10/6 Charles R Harris : > 2009/10/6 Stéfan van der Walt >> >> Hi all, >> >> The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is broken and should not be used. >> Extensions compiled against this version may (will) segfault. >> > > Can you be more specific? I haven't had any problems running current svn > with s

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread Charles R Harris
2009/10/6 Stéfan van der Walt > Hi all, > > The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is broken and should not be used. > Extensions compiled against this version may (will) segfault. > > Can you be more specific? I haven't had any problems running current svn with scipy. Chuck _

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread Charles R Harris
2009/10/6 Stéfan van der Walt > Hi all, > > The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is broken and should not be used. > Extensions compiled against this version may (will) segfault. > > Travis, if you could have a look at the side-effects caused by r7050, > that would be great. I meant to figure out what

[Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

2009-10-06 Thread Stéfan van der Walt
Hi all, The current SVN HEAD of NumPy is broken and should not be used. Extensions compiled against this version may (will) segfault. Travis, if you could have a look at the side-effects caused by r7050, that would be great. I meant to figure out what was wrong, but seeing that this is a 3000 li