> You can subscribe to be notified by email whenever a question is posted
> to a certain tag.
Absolutely true.
> So then it is no different than a mailing list as far
> as push/pull.
There are a few differences though. New tags get created often,
potentially in a decentralized fashion and dynam
On 6/30/12 4:23 PM, srean wrote:
> Indeed they are, but it still needs active "pulling" on behalf of
> those who would want to answer questions and even then a question can
> sink deep in the well. Deeper than what one typically monitors.
> Sometimes question are not appropriately tagged. Sometimes
Aron Ahmadia ahmadia.net> writes:
>
>
> I and Geoff are moderators on scicomp, I'm happy to invest the effort
> in getting the community started there. One way to use scicomp is like
> a blog/faq, that is, if you get a specific question a lot here on the list or
> elsewhere, you can ask and
> Isn't that what the various sections are for?
Indeed they are, but it still needs active "pulling" on behalf of
those who would want to answer questions and even then a question can
sink deep in the well. Deeper than what one typically monitors.
Sometimes question are not appropriately tagged. S
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 5:02 PM, T J wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, srean wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anecdotal data-point:
>> I have been happy with SO in general. It works for certain types of
>> queries very well. OTOH if the answer to the question is known only to
>> a few and he/she does not
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, srean wrote:
>
> Anecdotal data-point:
> I have been happy with SO in general. It works for certain types of
> queries very well. OTOH if the answer to the question is known only to
> a few and he/she does not happen to be online at time the question
> was poste
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM, John Hunter wrote:
> This thread is a perfect example of why another list is needed.
+1
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Oh - dear. I think the point that most of us agreed on was that
> having a different from: address wasn't a perfec
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM, wrote:
> just some statistics
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/numpy
> 769 followers, 2,850 questions tagged
>
> a guess: average response time for regular usage question far less than an
> hour
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/scipy
> 4
just some statistics
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/numpy
769 followers, 2,850 questions tagged
a guess: average response time for regular usage question far less than an hour
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/scipy
446 followers, 991questions tagged
http://stackoverflow.co
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
wrote:
> On 06/30/2012 09:37 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroy wrote:
As a lurker and user, I too wish for a dist
On 06/30/2012 09:37 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Hunter wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroy wrote:
>>>
>>> As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
>>>
>>
>> This thread is a perfect example of w
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:29 PM, John Hunter wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroy wrote:
>>
>> As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
>>
>
> This thread is a perfect example of why another list is needed. It's
> currently 42 semi-philo
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jim Vickroy wrote:
> As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
>
>
This thread is a perfect example of why another list is needed. It's
currently 42 semi-philosophical posts about what kind community numpy
should be and what kinds o
I and Geoff are moderators on scicomp, I'm happy to invest the effort in
getting the community started there. One way to use scicomp is like a
blog/faq, that is, if you get a specific question a lot here on the list or
elsewhere, you can ask and answer it yourself on scicomp. If others find
the p
On 06/30/2012 08:44 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
> wrote:
>> It is rumored that a problem with some stackexchange sites is the host
>> of nay-sayers saying that a question doesn't belong here but in this
>> other silo instead, instead of just
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
wrote:
> It is rumored that a problem with some stackexchange sites is the host
> of nay-sayers saying that a question doesn't belong here but in this
> other silo instead, instead of just letting a culture develop (though my
> only interface
On 06/30/2012 07:31 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jason Grout
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious: do you mean using stackexchange.com itself, or using
>> http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/ specifically?
>
> I meant the latter, which seems like it would be the best suited fo
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jason Grout
wrote:
>
> I'm curious: do you mean using stackexchange.com itself, or using
> http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/ specifically?
I meant the latter, which seems like it would be the best suited for
the topic of this discussion. I don't use the site mys
On 6/30/12 12:10 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Brett
> wrote:
>> As a matter of interest - do y'all hang out much on stackexchange? I
>> notice that I often go to stackexchange for a good answer, but it
>> doesn't seem that good for - discussion. Or maybe
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> As a matter of interest - do y'all hang out much on stackexchange? I
> notice that I often go to stackexchange for a good answer, but it
> doesn't seem that good for - discussion. Or maybe it's just I'm not
> used to it.
I'm in the same bo
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn
wrote:
> +1 on scicomp.stackexchange.com
>
> For it to work, one would need to actively push users towards it though...so
> it would require a very clear pronouncement.
>
> Matthew: I'm happy with the split we did with Cython. It leaves me
+1 on scicomp.stackexchange.com
For it to work, one would need to actively push users towards it though...so it
would require a very clear pronouncement.
Matthew: I'm happy with the split we did with Cython. It leaves me free to
mostly ignore cython-users, and it saves users from thos 100+ post
As I mentioned before, numpy-related questions would be welcome on scicomp,
and this would have the advantage of bringing in scientists and
mathematicians from related fields who might be able to answer numerical
questions that sit between mathematics, programming, and science that you
might not ot
As a lurker and user, I too wish for a distinct numpy-users list. -- jv
On 6/28/2012 1:42 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Olivier Delalleau wrote:
>> +1 for a numpy-users list without "dev noise".
> Moderately strong vote against splitting the mailing lists in
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:50 PM, srean wrote:
> I like this solution and I think ask.scipy.org can be revived to take
> over that role, but this will need some policing to send standard
> questions there and also some hangout time at ask.scipy.org.
Sounds like a good idea to me too. If some
I like this solution and I think ask.scipy.org can be revived to take
over that role, but this will need some policing to send standard
questions there and also some hangout time at ask.scipy.org.
I love the stackoverflow model but it requires more active
participation of those who want to answer
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean wrote:
> > What I like about having two lists is that on one hand it does not
> > prevent me or you from participating in both, on the other hand it
> > allows those who dont want to delve too deeply
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM, srean wrote:
>> I'm not on the python mailing lists, but my impression is that python
>> is in a different space from numpy. I mean, I have the impression
>
> Indeed one could seek out philosphical differences between different
> projects. No two projects are
> I'm not on the python mailing lists, but my impression is that python
> is in a different space from numpy. I mean, I have the impression
Indeed one could seek out philosphical differences between different
projects. No two projects are the same but they can and often do have
common issues. Abo
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Brett
> wrote:
>> Fernando - you told me a week or so ago that you'd come across a blog
>> post or similar advocating a single list - do you remember the
>> reference?
>
> Found it after some d
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean wrote:
> What I like about having two lists is that on one hand it does not
> prevent me or you from participating in both, on the other hand it
> allows those who dont want to delve too deeply in one aspect or the
> other, the option of a cleaner inbox, or
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean wrote:
>> And I continue to think it sends the wrong message.
>
> Maybe if you articulate your fears I will be able to appreciate your
> point of view more.
Ah - I'm afraid I don't know how to say what I mean more clearly :(
I can repeat myself, more o
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> Fernando - you told me a week or so ago that you'd come across a blog
> post or similar advocating a single list - do you remember the
> reference?
Found it after some digging:
http://www.kitware.com/blog/home/post/263
and upon rereading i
Could not have said this better even if I tried, so thank you for your
long answer.
-- srean
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> Long answer, I know...
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> And I continue to think it sends the wrong message.
Maybe if you articulate your fears I will be able to appreciate your
point of view more.
> My impression is that, at the moment, we numpy-ers are trying to work
> out what kind of community we are. Are we a developer community, or
> are we som
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Fernando Perez wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Brett
> wrote:
>> I see that sympy, for example, has only one mailing list, and that
>> works extremely well. I'd be interested to hear from the Cython and
>> IPython guys as to whether they f
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> I see that sympy, for example, has only one mailing list, and that
> works extremely well. I'd be interested to hear from the Cython and
> IPython guys as to whether they feel the user / devel split has helped
> or hurt. Ferando? Dag?
Ther
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Hanno Klemm wrote:
>
> Am 28.06.2012 um 23:07 schrieb Matthew Brett:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, srean wrote:
>>> In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
>>> point out that many open source projects do this. It is
Am 28.06.2012 um 23:07 schrieb Matthew Brett:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, srean wrote:
>> In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
>> point out that many open source projects do this. It is not about
>> claiming that one is more important than the other, n
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, srean wrote:
> In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
> point out that many open source projects do this. It is not about
> claiming that one is more important than the other, nor does it
> reinforce the idea that developers and user
In case this changes your mind (or assuages fears) just wanted to
point out that many open source projects do this. It is not about
claiming that one is more important than the other, nor does it
reinforce the idea that developers and users live in separate silos,
but more of directing the mails to
On 6/28/12 2:46 PM, Cera, Tim wrote:
> That is really funny. Looking through the posts, there wasn't any spam
> (could have been deleted), but it wasn't used as much as I would think.
> Have to attract people who answer questions. Early on the
> registration seemed to be a problem.
>
> Solace,
That is really funny. Looking through the posts, there wasn't any spam
(could have been deleted), but it wasn't used as much as I would think.
Have to attract people who answer questions. Early on the registration
seemed to be a problem.
Solace, the software behind ask.scipy.org looks pretty ni
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Olivier Delalleau wrote:
> +1 for a numpy-users list without "dev noise".
Moderately strong vote against splitting the mailing lists into devel and user.
As we know, this list can be unhappy and distracting, but I don't
think splitting the lists is the right
If I remember correctly there used to be a stackexchange site at
ask.scipy.org. It might be good to learn from that experience. I think
handling with spam was a significant problem, but am not sure whether
that is the reson why it got discontinued.
Best
srean
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM, C
A little more research shows that we could have a
http://numpy.stackexchange.com. The requirements are just to have people
involved. See http://area51.stackexchange.com/faq for more info.
Kindest regards,
Tim
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You are correct, I meant http://programmers.stackexchange.com/
And on a site like stackexchange I could actually edit my post instead of
my mistake being permanent. :-)
Kindest regards,
Tim
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stackexchange.com are used (as one might guess) for meta discussions on the
site.
A
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Cera, Tim wrote:
> Similar to http://scicomp.stackexchange.com there is
> http://meta.programmers.stackex
Similar to http://scicomp.stackexchange.com there is
http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/ intended for programmers. Darn
it, there are choices involved!
I had proposed http://meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/ on this mailing
list earlier and no-one seemed interested, but maybe now the tim
Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 15:33:07, Travis Oliphant a écrit :
> There are some good ideas here.
>
> I propose splitting this list into devel and users lists.
>
> This might best be done by creating a new list for users and using this
> list for development.
I second that idea.
As one of the silent u
+1 for a numpy-users list without "dev noise".
-=- Olivier
2012/6/28 Travis Oliphant
> There are some good ideas here.
>
> I propose splitting this list into devel and users lists.
>
> This might best be done by creating a new list for users and using this
> list for development.
>
> Travis
>
>
There are some good ideas here.
I propose splitting this list into devel and users lists.
This might best be done by creating a new list for users and using this list
for development.
Travis
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On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:38 PM, srean wrote:
> Hi Li
We try to support numpy questions on http://scicomp.stackexchange.com,
which is a StackOverflow site dedicated towards technical computing issues
that gets a fair amount of traffic from mathematicians and computational
scientists. We could always use more questions and answerers :)
A
On Thu, Jun
Hi List,
this has been brought up several times, and the response has been
generally positive but it has fallen through the cracks. So here are a
few repeat requests. Am keeping it terse just for brevity
i) Split the list into [devel] and [help] and as was mentioned
recently [rant/flame]:
so
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