Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-05 Thread Chris Barker
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > I just envisioned a Roman patron shouting veto or a US senator > filibustering. Expulsion would be the appropriate recation, yes :-) Oh if only the US Senate could expulse people! -sigh -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emerg

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-05 Thread Benjamin Root
There is the concept of consensus-driven development, which centers on veto rights. It does assume that all actors are driven by a common goal to improve the project. For example, the fact that we didn't have consensus back during the whole NA brouhaha was actually a good thing because IMHO includi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-05 Thread Sturla Molden
Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Are you planning to go around vetoing things I don't consider myself qualified. > for ridiculous reasons and causing havoc? That would be unpolite. > And if not, then who is it that you're worried about? I am not sure :) I just envisioned a Roman patron shouting ve

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-05 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > Nathaniel Smith wrote: > > > Thanks Chuck! It looks like it's just wording tweaks / clarifications > > at this point, so nothing we need to discuss in detail on the list. If > > anyone wants to watch the sausage being made, then the link is

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-05 Thread Sturla Molden
Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Thanks Chuck! It looks like it's just wording tweaks / clarifications > at this point, so nothing we need to discuss in detail on the list. If > anyone wants to watch the sausage being made, then the link is above > :-), and we'll continue the discussion in the PR unless

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-04 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: [...] >> I've just updated the governance document pull request with final >> formatting tweaks, in case anyone wants to review the current text or >> the (very minor and boring) cha

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-04 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > After some further thought and spending quite a bit of time re-reading > the > > discussion on a few threads, I now believe that my request to be on the > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-04 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hi everyone, > > After some further thought and spending quite a bit of time re-reading the > discussion on a few threads, I now believe that my request to be on the > steering council might be creating more trouble than it's worth. Noth

[Numpy-discussion] Let's move forward with the current governance document.

2015-10-02 Thread Travis Oliphant
Hi everyone, After some further thought and spending quite a bit of time re-reading the discussion on a few threads, I now believe that my request to be on the steering council might be creating more trouble than it's worth. Nothing matters to me more than seeing NumPy continue to grow and improve