Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-15 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/13/2012 12:27 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > mailto:d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no>> wrote: > > On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: > > On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre > Seljebotn

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-15 Thread Frédéric Bastien
Hi, On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:42 AM, mark florisson wrote: > I assumed as much, in any case I was going to start with dense arrays, > simply because they are in common use and well-defined at this point. > Maybe what we really want is just lazy evaluation that works for > different array layouts

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-15 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/15/2012 12:42 PM, mark florisson wrote: > On 14 May 2012 21:36, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: >> On 05/14/2012 06:31 PM, mark florisson wrote: >>> >>> On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >>> wrote: On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: > > > On 11 May 201

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-15 Thread mark florisson
On 14 May 2012 21:54, David Cournapeau wrote: > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM, mark florisson > wrote: >> >> On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >> wrote: >> > On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >> >>  wrote: >> >>> >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-15 Thread mark florisson
On 14 May 2012 21:36, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > On 05/14/2012 06:31 PM, mark florisson wrote: >> >> On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn  wrote: > > >>>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-14 Thread David Cournapeau
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM, mark florisson wrote: > On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > wrote: > > On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: > >> > >> On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-14 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/14/2012 10:36 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > On 05/14/2012 06:31 PM, mark florisson wrote: >> On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >> wrote: >>> On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > > (NumPy dev

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-14 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/14/2012 06:31 PM, mark florisson wrote: > On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: >> On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: >>> >>> On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >>> wrote: (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* beli

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-14 Thread mark florisson
On 12 May 2012 22:55, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: >> >> On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >>  wrote: >>> >>> (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* >>> believe >>> in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And i

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 12, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> >> On May 12, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: Your thoughts are definitely the f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On May 12, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> Your thoughts are definitely the future.   We are currently building such a >>> thing.   We would like it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 12, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> Your thoughts are definitely the future. We are currently building such a >> thing. We would like it to be open source.We are currently preparing a >> proposal to DAR

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Your thoughts are definitely the future.   We are currently building such a > thing.   We would like it to be open source.    We are currently preparing a > proposal to DARPA as part of their XDATA proposal in order to help fund this

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Travis Oliphant
> > I think the long-term generality is a lot bigger than that: > > - Compressed arrays > - Interfaces to HDF files > - Distributed-memory arrays > - Blocked arrays > - Semi-sparse and sparse (diagonal, but also triangular, symmetric, > repeating, ...) > - Lazy evaluation: "generating_mult

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Charles R Harris
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn < d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no> wrote: > On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: > > On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > wrote: > >> (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* > believe > >> in it, I think

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/11/2012 03:37 PM, mark florisson wrote: > On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: >> (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* believe >> in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes it it's not >> going to be without manpower; and as hi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/12/2012 11:35 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > On 05/11/2012 03:25 PM, mark florisson wrote: >> On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >> wrote: >>> (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* believe >>> in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/11/2012 03:25 PM, mark florisson wrote: > On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: >> (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* believe >> in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes it it's not >> going to be without manpower; and as hi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-12 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/11/2012 10:10 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > mailto:d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no>> wrote: > > (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* > believe in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Wiebe
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:37 AM, mark florisson wrote: > On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > wrote: > > (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* > believe > > in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes it it's > not > > going to be without

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Wiebe
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn < d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no> wrote: > (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* > believe in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes > it it's not going to be without manpower; and as his mentor I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-11 Thread mark florisson
On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* believe > in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes it it's not > going to be without manpower; and as his mentor I'd pitch in too here and > there.) > > (M

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-11 Thread mark florisson
On 11 May 2012 12:13, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* believe > in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes it it's not > going to be without manpower; and as his mentor I'd pitch in too here and > there.) > > (M

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-11 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/11/2012 01:13 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > (NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* > believe in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes > it it's not going to be without manpower; and as his mentor I'd pitch in > too here and there.) > > (

[Numpy-discussion] Fixing issue of future opaqueness of ndarray this summer

2012-05-11 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
(NumPy devs: I know, I get too many ideas. But this time I *really* believe in it, I think this is going to be *huge*. And if Mark F. likes it it's not going to be without manpower; and as his mentor I'd pitch in too here and there.) (Mark F.: I believe this is *very* relevant to your GSoC. I c