Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ondřej Čertík >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Ondřej Čertík
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ondřej Čertík > wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Ondřej Čertík
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the iss

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: >> >> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the >> release manager can actually "build" Num

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the > release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a particular > compiler. > > That woul

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the >>> release manager can actually "build" NumPy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Peter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sur

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Peter
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that >>> the release manager can actually "build" NumPy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the >> release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a >> particular compiler. > > The MS Exp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the > release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a > particular compiler. > That would help, yes. MS Express doesn't work under Wine last time I che

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Barker
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the > release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a particular > compiler. The MS Express editions, while not open source, are free-to-use, and work

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-20 Thread Travis Oliphant
I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a particular compiler. But, I would rather have official builds of NumPy for all platforms with a compiler paid for by a NumPy-sponsor than not have them.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Barker
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Ralf Gommers > The problem is that, unlike 32-bit builds, they can't be made with open > source compilers on Windows. So unless we're okay with that, Why does it have to be built with open-source compilers? we're building against the python.org python, yes? Which

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-19 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:25:21 -0700 > > From: Matthew Brett > > Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure > > To: Discussion of Numerical Python > > Message-ID: > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-19 Thread Sayth Renshaw
> Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:25:21 -0700 > From: Matthew Brett > Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure > To: Discussion of Numerical Python > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > > On

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> >> Hi Sayth, >> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Sayth Renshaw >> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result >>> of an infrastructure or funding concern. >>> >>> I like many no

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Travis Oliphant
Donations to NumFOCUS would be helpful in raising money to fund the creation of 64-bit installers.It always comes down to funding, but mostly people's time is the scarce resource here. It is more difficult to build 64-bit binaries on Windows which is the real issue (not the availability

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Sayth Renshaw
> > Hi Sayth, > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> Hi >> >> I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result >> of an infrastructure or funding concern. >> >> I like many now have only 64 bit systems and am using the unofficial builds. >> >> If it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Ondřej Čertík
Hi Sayth, On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Hi > > I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result > of an infrastructure or funding concern. > > I like many now have only 64 bit systems and am using the unofficial builds. > > If it was something

[Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-16 Thread Sayth Renshaw
Hi I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result of an infrastructure or funding concern. I like many now have only 64 bit systems and am using the unofficial builds. If it was something we could raise funds to resolve, how much? Or is it more complex than that? Sa