Re: [Numpy-discussion] Changes to generalized ufunc core dimension checking

2016-03-19 Thread Fernando Perez
his case just for creating new cleaner APIs + possibly doing slow deprecation of the old stuff. For a widely used library, if the code exists then someone, somewhere depends on it, regardless of how broken or obscure you think the feature is. We just have to live with that. Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN-JOB] Project Jupyter is hiring a Project Manager - position at UC Berkeley

2015-12-22 Thread Fernando Perez
ience, working locally with Fernando Perez, Matthias Bussonnier, and our new postdoctoral scholars. But the scope of this role is the entire project, so we are looking for a candidate who will be regularly communicating with project stakeholders from all locations, traveling to conferences, develo

[Numpy-discussion] [JOB] Project Jupyter is hiring two postdoctoral fellows @ UC Berkeley

2015-11-19 Thread Fernando Perez
with the full scope of the questions we intend to tackle. We'd like to thank the support of the Helmsley Trust, the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. Cheers, Brian Granger and Fernando Perez. -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.n

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plan for 1.9.4 release

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
Ah, great, glad to hear that. Thx! On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Fernando Perez > wrote: > > Chance this will be merged into 1.10? I know there's an rc floating out > > there for 1.10, and t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Plan for 1.9.4 release

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
- do you want to get your mingw-w64 PR in for this? > > Cheers, > > Matthew > ___ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > https://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > -- Fernando Perez (@

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
o as to clarify what my proposal actually is in the > context of that document. > No worries, I wasn't digging it up further, really! Just clarifying for other reasons, not digging into you :) Glad to see the other thread proceeding further, let's let this one die as peacefully

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
I was simply asking Travis to separate individuals from institutions. But I should have realized that calling anyone out by name in a context like this is a bad idea regardless. Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this wh

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Stefan van der Walt wrote: > Perhaps some kind of group bonding activity, such as working on a shared > project, would help? ;) > Indeed, there's a bunch of fresh 2x4s, screws and bolts with your name on them ;) Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
ut we'll do it, as we hope this will be useful to the entire community. Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail ___

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
t aiming at you personally. b) a suggestion that we discuss it further personally, taking advantage of the fact that we happen to be physically close. If anyone else would like me to answer in public because they feel a slight on my part, I will do so. Best, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
s point. The process of establishing governance has to come organically from within a community. Cheers -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me h

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Governance model request

2015-09-23 Thread Fernando Perez
mmunity, where at any point in time, any of us should be judged on the merit of our actions, not the hypotheticals of our intentions or our affiliations (commercial, government, academic, etc). Sorry for the long wall of text, I rarely post on this list anymore. But I was saddened to see the turn

[Numpy-discussion] Python extensions for Python 3.5 - useful info...

2015-08-25 Thread Fernando Perez
-- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http

Re: [Numpy-discussion] On responding to dubious ideas (was: Re: Advanced indexing: "fancy" vs. orthogonal)

2015-04-08 Thread Fernando Perez
ing we're nearly certain we won't merge it, but it will make it easier for us to have a fruitful discussion with you". Back to lurking ;) f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this whe

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN - JOB] Assistant Researcher - Berkeley Institute for Data Science

2014-10-29 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, the newly founded Berkeley Institute for Data Science is hiring researchers with a focus on open source tools for scientific computing, please see here for details: https://aprecruit.berkeley.edu/apply/JPF00590 Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Python for Scientific Computing conference in Boulder, CO; April'15

2014-10-28 Thread Fernando Perez
thanks, reported. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Jean-Baptiste Marquette wrote: > > Le 28 oct. 2014 à 19:09, Fernando Perez a écrit : > > a colleague from NCAR in Boulder just sent me this link about a conference > they are organizing in the spring: > > > Wrong year

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Python for Scientific Computing conference in Boulder, CO; April'15

2014-10-28 Thread Fernando Perez
ite for an upcoming call when they post it (I'm not directly involved, just passing the message along). Cheers f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [julia-dev] OpenBLAS machines

2014-10-22 Thread Fernando Perez
eri) machine and Intel KNC MIC are coming soon. Xianyi -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct mail ___ NumP

[Numpy-discussion] Heads-up: Guido van Rossum on mypy-style type annotations...

2014-08-15 Thread Fernando Perez
This same heads-up was also sent out by Stefan Behnel to the cython ML, please feel free to pass it to other communities that might be interested in this problem and can provide feedback to python-core while this is in the discussion phase. Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http

Re: [Numpy-discussion] How to give feedback to github

2014-08-06 Thread Fernando Perez
__ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > > -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernan

[Numpy-discussion] Numpy BoF at SciPy 2014 - quick report

2014-07-17 Thread Fernando Perez
s a stable interface for working with array data. Boost::Python - Nothing official from numpy for using numpy arrays in C++ - Not prioritized. - Numpy has gotten better about namespace pollution? - It kind of works already. Talk to Mike Droettboom -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.o

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [Python-ideas] PEP pre-draft: Support for indexing with keyword arguments

2014-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
_ >> Python-ideas mailing list >> python-id...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas >> Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> >> ___ >> NumPy-Discussion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] SciPy 2014 BoF NumPy Participation

2014-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Fernando Perez >> wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I've just created a page on the numpy wiki: >>> >>> https://github.com/numpy/numpy/wiki/Numpy-BoF-at-Scipy-2014

Re: [Numpy-discussion] SciPy 2014 BoF NumPy Participation

2014-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
; > -Chris > ___ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists o

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Universal functions and introspection

2014-04-16 Thread Fernando Perez
ussion mailing list > > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > > http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > > > > > > -- > Nathaniel J. Smith > Postdoctoral researcher - Informatics - University of Edinburgh > http://vorpus.org > __

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Wiki page for building numerical stuff onWindows

2014-04-15 Thread Fernando Perez
Quick question on this: has anyone looked at the Open Watcom compiler? There was a lighting talk at Pycon about a guy who's been working on getting Python itself to build on Windows with this compiler. I don't know if it might help in all this, if nothing else it mitght be good to have. This was th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] PEP 465 has been accepted / volunteers needed

2014-04-07 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Hey all, > > Guido just formally accepted PEP 465: > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-April/133819.html > http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0465/#implementation-details Congratulations!! Getting a PEP through is v

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [RFC] should we argue for a matrix power operator, @@?

2014-03-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Aron Ahmadia wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> The thread so far, it sounds like the consensus answer is "meh, >> whatever". So I'm thinking we should just drop @@ from the PEP, and if >> it turns out that this is a problem

Re: [Numpy-discussion] RFC: is it worth giving a lightning talk at PyCon 2014 on numpy vbench-marking?

2013-11-25 Thread Fernando Perez
obviously be scientific computing, I'd be happy to mention a few talks from our community in my slides. Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contac

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN, x-post] Creating a space for scientific open source at Berkeley (with UW and NYU)

2013-11-13 Thread Fernando Perez
d hopefully a starting point for much more work in slightly better conditions. Here are some additional resources for anyone interested: http://bitly.com/bundles/fperezorg/1 -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A bug in numpy.random.shuffle?

2013-09-05 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > Oh, nice one ;) Should be fixable if you want to submit a patch. Strategy? One option is to do, for structured arrays, a shuffle of the indices and then an in-place arr = arr[shuffled_indices] But there may be a cleaner/faster way to

[Numpy-discussion] A bug in numpy.random.shuffle?

2013-09-05 Thread Fernando Perez
s ago. Is this my misuse? It really looks like a bug to me... Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] IPython 1.0 is finally released, nearly 12 years in the making!

2013-08-08 Thread Fernando Perez
nks to everyone! Please enjoy IPython 1.0, and report all bugs as usual! Fernando, on behalf of the IPython Dev Team. -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when swamped!) fernando.perez-at-berkeley: contact me here for any direct

Re: [Numpy-discussion] add .H attribute?

2013-07-23 Thread Fernando Perez
its easily into the mnemonic pattern suggested by .T, yet the extra () are indicative that something potentially big/expensive is happening... Cheers, f -- Fernando Perez (@fperez_org; http://fperez.org) fperez.net-at-gmail: mailing lists only (I ignore this when

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [numfocus] Re: A new webpage promoting Compiler technology for CPython

2013-02-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > If you want to discuss this in public. Let's have the discussion over at > numfo...@googlegroups.com until a more specific list is created. Sounds good. I actually think numfocus is a great list for these kind of 'in-between' discussion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] A new webpage promoting Compiler technology for CPython

2013-02-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > We should take this discussion off list. Just as a bystander interested in this: why? It seems that OCL is within the scope of what's being proposed and another entrant into the vibrant new world of compiler-extended machinery for fast nu

[Numpy-discussion] Python trademark in legal trouble in Europe, please help

2013-02-15 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, please do NOT respond to this thread or to me directly. This is strictly to spread this message as widely as possible, so that anyone who receives it and can act on it does so. Needless to say, do forward this to anyone you think might be in a position to take useful action. The Python

Re: [Numpy-discussion] New numpy functions: filled, filled_like

2013-01-18 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > I personally find 'fill' OK. I'd read: > > a = np.empty((10, 10), fill=np.nan) > > as > > "make an empty array shape (10, 10) and fill with nans" > > Which would indeed be what the code was doing :) So I doubt that the > semantic clash woul

Re: [Numpy-discussion] In case anybody wants them: py4science.* domains...

2012-11-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Peter Cock wrote: > Perhaps http://numfocus.org/ could take them on, or the PSF? > (even if they don't have a specific use in mind immediately) > For the short them I'd just have them redirect to www.scipy.org ;) I asked on the numfocus list and nobody was really

[Numpy-discussion] In case anybody wants them: py4science.* domains...

2012-11-21 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, years ago, John Hunter and I bought the py4science.{com, org, info} domains thinking they might be useful. We never did anything with them, and with his passing I realized I'm not really in the mood to keep renewing them without a clear goal in mind. Does anybody here want to do anythi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] print array in a form that can then be input

2012-10-20 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Daπid wrote: a=np.arange(10) print a > [0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9] repr(a) > 'array([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9])' > Note that you don't need to explicitly call repr() at the interactive prompt: by default, Python prints the repr of an object when you t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue tracking

2012-10-19 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Kudos! Ray. > > Very impressive and useful work. Indeed, many thanks, Ray!! This has been a ton of work, and somewhat thankless b/c it's for a one-off thing. What I did for our lanunchpad bug migration was a far more hackish/dirty job pre

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Making numpy sensible: backward compatibility please

2012-09-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > Bitch, bitch, bitch. Look, I know you are pissed and venting a bit, but this > problem could have been detected and reported 6 months ago, that is, unless > it is new due to development on your end. It would be great if we could keep thes

[Numpy-discussion] John Hunter has been awarded the first Distinguished Service Award by the PSF

2012-09-14 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, you may have already seen this, but in case you haven't, I'm thrilled to share that the Python Software Foundation has just created its newest and highest distinction, the Distinguished Service Award, and has chosen John as its first recipient: http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2012/09/announ

[Numpy-discussion] John Hunter's memorial service

2012-09-07 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, I have just received the following information from John's family regarding the memorial service: John's memorial service will be held on Monday, October 1, 2012, at 11.a.m. at Rockefeller Chapel at the University of Chicago. The exact address is 5850 S. Woodlawn Ave, Chicago, IL 60615.

[Numpy-discussion] A sad day for our community. John Hunter: 1968-2012.

2012-08-30 Thread Fernando Perez
Dear friends and colleagues, I am terribly saddened to report that yesterday, August 28 2012 at 10am, John D. Hunter died from complications arising from cancer treatment at the University of Chicago hospital, after a brief but intense battle with this terrible illness. John is survived by his w

[Numpy-discussion] A sad day for our community. John Hunter: 1968-2012.

2012-08-29 Thread Fernando Perez
Dear friends and colleagues, [please excuse a possible double-post of this message, in-flight internet glitches] I am terribly saddened to report that yesterday, August 28 2012 at 10am, John D. Hunter died from complications arising from cancer treatment at the University of Chicago hospital, af

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Call for abstracts: BigData minisymposium at CSE'13, February 2013, Boston

2012-08-23 Thread Fernando Perez
m, please contact us directly at: "C. Titus Brown" , "Fernando Perez" with your name and affiliation, the title of your proposed talk and a brief description (actual abstracts are due later so an informal description will suffice for now), by Wednesday August 29. For more detai

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Synonym standards

2012-07-27 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Derek Homeier wrote: > thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for - together with > > c.TerminalIPythonApp.exec_lines = ['import sys', >'import numpy as np', >'import matplotlib as mpl', >

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: Github notifications and trac-to-github migration

2012-07-26 Thread Fernando Perez
, Thouis (Ray) Jones wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Fernando Perez wrote: >>> Hi Thouis, >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Thouis (Ray) Jones >>> wrote: >>>> I would estimate I'm between a fourth and halfway through t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Github notifications and trac-to-github migration

2012-07-24 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi Thouis, On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Thouis (Ray) Jones wrote: > I would estimate I'm between a fourth and halfway through the > implementation of the trac-to-github-issues migration code. The work > lives in at https://github.com/thouis/numpy-trac-migration mmh, I would have thought you

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Multivariate hypergeometric distribution?

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > It appears you're right! > > http://pymc-devs.github.com/pymc/distributions.html?highlight=hypergeometric#pymc.distributions.multivariate_hypergeometric_like Furthermore, the code actually calls a sampler implemented in

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Multivariate hypergeometric distribution?

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Skipper Seabold wrote: > I could be wrong, but I think PyMC has sampling and likelihood. It appears you're right! http://pymc-devs.github.com/pymc/distributions.html?highlight=hypergeometric#pymc.distributions.multivariate_hypergeometric_like Thanks :) Cheers,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Buildbot status

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
Useful-looking: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] "import numpy" performance

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Andrew Dalke wrote: > > Thus, I don't see any way that I can import 'multiarray' directly, > because the underlying C code is the one which imports > 'numpy.core.multiarray' and by design it is inaccessible to change > from Python code. I was just referring to how

Re: [Numpy-discussion] "import numpy" performance

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Andrew Dalke wrote: > > so the relevant timing test is more likely: > > % time python -c 'import numpy.core.multiarray' > 0.086u 0.031s 0:00.12 91.6% 0+0k 0+0io 0pf+0w No, that's the wrong thing to test, because it effectively amounts to 'import numpy', sicne t

[Numpy-discussion] Multivariate hypergeometric distribution?

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, in recent work with a colleague, the need came up for a multivariate hypergeometric sampler; I had a look in the numpy code and saw we have the bivariate version, but not the multivariate one. I had a look at the code in scipy.stats.distributions, and it doesn't look too difficult to add

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: an interesting single-file, cross-platform Python deployment tool.

2012-07-02 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, sorry for the slightly off-topic post, but I know that in our community many people often struggle with deployment issues (to colleagues, to experimental/hardware control machines, to one-off test machines, ...). I just stumbled upon this announcement by accident, and figured it might pro

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > It is rumored that a problem with some stackexchange sites is the host > of nay-sayers saying that a question doesn't belong here but in this > other silo instead, instead of just letting a culture develop (though my > only interface

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > I'm curious: do you mean using stackexchange.com itself, or using > http://scicomp.stackexchange.com/ specifically? I meant the latter, which seems like it would be the best suited for the topic of this discussion. I don't use the site mys

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > As a matter of interest - do y'all hang out much on stackexchange?  I > notice that I often go to stackexchange for a good answer, but it > doesn't seem that good for - discussion.  Or maybe it's just I'm not > used to it. I'm in the same bo

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] IPython 0.13 is officially out!

2012-06-30 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi all, on behalf of the IPython development team, and just in time for the imminent Debian freeze and SciPy 2012, I'm thrilled to announce, after an intense 6 months of work, the official release of IPython 0.13. This version contains several major new features, as well as a large amount of bug

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM, srean wrote: >  What I like about having two lists is that on one hand it does not > prevent me or you from participating in both, on the other hand it > allows those who dont want to delve too deeply in one aspect or the > other, the option of a cleaner inbox, or

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Fernando - you told me a week or so ago that you'd come across a blog > post or similar advocating a single list - do you remember the > reference? Found it after some digging: http://www.kitware.com/blog/home/post/263 and upon rereading i

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Meta: help, devel and stackoverflow

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > I see that sympy, for example, has only one mailing list, and that > works extremely well.  I'd be interested to hear from the Cython and > IPython guys as to whether they feel the user / devel split has helped > or hurt.  Ferando? Dag? Ther

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-28 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> Python in fact has the __future__ imports that help quite a bit for >> people to start adapting their codes.  How about creating a >> numpy.future module where new, non-backward-compatible APIs could go? >> That would give the adventurous

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >  I just want to speak up for the people who are affected by API breakage who > are not as vocal on this list. Certainly! And indeed I bet you that's a community underrepresented here: those of us who are on this list are likely to be up

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > ... >> >> What should have happened in this case, in my mind, is that NumPy 1.4.0 >> should have been 1.5.0 and advertised that there was a break in the ABI and >> that all extens

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > Do you use anything else besides Travis CI? Yes, we use both Shining Panda and Travis CI: https://jenkins.shiningpanda.com/ipython/ http://travis-ci.org/#!/ipython/ipython The SP setup is more complete, including Mac and Windows bots. > I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > One issues is the one that Sage identified about the array interface > regression as noted by Jason.    Any other regressions from 1.5.x need to be > addressed as well.    We'll have to decide on a case-by-case basis if there > are issues t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Eventually we will need to break the ABI.   We might as well wait until 2.0 > at this point. Ah, got it; thanks for the clarification, I just didn't understand the original. Cheers, f ___ Num

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I agree a decision needs to be made.   I think we will need to break the ABI. >    At this point, I don't know of any pressing features that would require it > short of NumPy 2.0. Sorry, I don't quite know how to parse the above, do you

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > > For context, consider that for many years, the word "gratuitous" has been > used in a non-derogatory way in the Python ecosystem to describe changes to &g

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Created NumPy 1.7.x branch

2012-06-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > You are still missing the point that there was already a choice that was > made in the previous class --- made in Numeric actually. > > You made a change to that.  It is the change that is 'gratuitous'. As someone who played a role in that

[Numpy-discussion] Is IPython useful for your research/industry work? Feedback wanted for grant proposal.

2012-06-22 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, sorry for the cross-post, but I expect all replies to this to happen off-list. I'm in the process of writing an NSF grant that will partly include IPython support, and along with Brian we will soon be doing more of the same. In the past we haven't had the best of luck with the NFS, hop

Re: [Numpy-discussion] commit rights for Nathaniel

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > There are other advantages to pulling down the patch. Fixups can be merged > together, commit comments enhanced, whitespace removed, style cleanups can > be added, tests can be run, and the PR is automatically rebased. I still > like fast f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] commit rights for Nathaniel

2012-06-05 Thread Fernando Perez
A couple of notes from the IPython workflow in case it's of use to you guys: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > For the commits themselves, the github button doesn't do fast forward or > whitespace cleanup, so I have the following alias in .git/config > > getpatch = !sh

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Cell magics in IPython master

2012-05-27 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi Nathaniel, On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > You guys are probably aware, but just in case, note that there's an > earlier (quite featureful) version of this idea included in the old > rnumpy code: >  https://bitbucket.org/njs/rnumpy/wiki/IPython_integration >  https:/

[Numpy-discussion] [ANN] Cell magics in IPython master

2012-05-27 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, [ Sorry for the slightly off-topic post, but I know that a number of people on this list have long wanted more seamless ways to integrate with tools like Cython and R, and you may not necessarily follow the ipython lists...] I'm excited to report that we now have cell magics in IPython.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Should arr.diagonal() return a copy or a view? (1.7 compatibility issue)

2012-05-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > I > have lying around my homedir that it would generally be a free speed > win Don't forget the case where the copy semantics may actually provide an *improvement* in performance by allowing a potentially large array to get deallocated if

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Should arr.diagonal() return a copy or a view? (1.7 compatibility issue)

2012-05-16 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > I tried checking this before, actually, but can't figure out how to > build scipy against a copy of numpy that is installed in either a > virtualenv or just on PYTHONPATH. (Basically, I just don't want to > install some random development n

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-11 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Scott Sinclair wrote: > That's pretty much how things already work. The documentation is in > the main source tree and built docs end up at http://docs.scipy.org. > NEPs live at https://github.com/numpy/numpy/tree/master/doc/neps, but > don't get published outside

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-10 Thread Fernando Perez
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Scott Sinclair wrote: > Having thought about it, a page on the website isn't a bad idea. I've > added a note pointing to this discussion. The document now appears at > http://numpy.scipy.org/NA-overview.html Why not have a separate repo for neps/discussion docs?

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector multiplication

2012-05-05 Thread Fernando Perez
Interesting, given the recent discussion on sparsity... -- Forwarded message -- From: James Demmel Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM Subject: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector multiplication To: siam-...@siam.org We are pleased to announce the first

[Numpy-discussion] Fwd: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector

2012-05-05 Thread Fernando Perez
Interesting, given the recent discussion on sparsity... -- Forwarded message -- From: James Demmel Date: Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:03 PM Subject: [SIAM-CSE] pOSKI - Autotuner for parallel sparse-matrix-vector multiplication To: siam-...@siam.org We are pleased to announce the first

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, wrote: > maybe searching issues and pull requests is ok. > The problem is that in statsmodels we did a lot of commits without > pull requests, and I'm not very good searching in git either. > (I don't remember which change I looked for but I got lost for half an >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > I would agree that a good search facility is essential, and not keyword/tag > based. Github issues does have full-text search, and up until now I haven't really had too many problems with it. No sophisticated filtering or anything, but ba

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > This example indicates that basing  your decision on what it is like > *today* may not be valid either.  You'd hope that they won't do Very true ;) > Anyway, like everyone else has said, Ralf, Pauli, et. al. are really the > ones to vote in th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Issue Tracking

2012-05-01 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, sorry for not jumping in before, swamped with deadlines... On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > I've been pretty impressed with the lemonade that the IPython folks have > made out of what I see as pretty limiting shortcomings of the github > issue tracker.  I've been

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Benjamin Root wrote: >> It would be nice if every pull request created a message to this list. >>  Is that even possible? >> >> -Travis >> > > This ha been a concern of mine for matplotlib as well.  The closest I can > come is to set up an RSS feed, but all the tit

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:02 PM, wrote: > Sorry that I missed this part of numpy history, I always had the > impression that numpy is run by a community led by Chuck and the young > guys, David, Pauli, Stefan, Pierre; and Robert on the mailing list . > (But I came late, and am just a balcony mup

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > Turnover is a problem with open source, and no matter how much discussion > there is, if people aren't doing the work the whole thing sort of peters > out. That's very true, and I hope that by building a friendly and welcoming environment

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > Fernando, I'm not checking credentials, I'm curious. Well, at least I think that an inquisitive query about someone's background, phrased like that, can be very easily misread. I can only speak for myself, but I immediately had the impre

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-24 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > I admit to a certain curiosity about your own involvement in FOSS projects, > and I know I'm not alone in this. Google shows several years of discussion > on Monotone, but I have no idea what your contributions were Seriously??? Please,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Stéfan van der Walt wrote: > If you are referring to the traditional concept of a fork, and not to > the type we frequently make on GitHub, then I'm surprised that no one > has objected already.  What would a fork solve? To paraphrase the > regexp saying: after for

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-23 Thread Fernando Perez
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > That is an excellent thought. > > We could make the odd numbered releases "experimental" and the even-numbered > as stable. > > That makes some sense.    What do others think? I think the concern with that is manpower: it effectively requ

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-22 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi Nathaniel, thanks for a solid writeup of this topic. I just want to add a note from personal experience, regarding this specific point: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Usually disagreements are an indication that a > better solution is possible, even when it's not c

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-20 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > > I don't think you gain that much by using a different type though? Those > optimized code paths could be plugged into NumPy as well. Could be: this was years ago, and the bottleneck for me was in the constructor and in basic arith

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-20 Thread Fernando Perez
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > > I recall discossion a couple times in the past of having some > special-case numpy arrays for the simple, small cases -- perhaps 1-d > or 2-d C-contiguous only, for instance. That might be a better way to > address the small-array performanc

[Numpy-discussion] All of the PyData videos are now up at the Marakana site

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, A number of you expressed interest in attending the PyData workshop last month and unfortunately we had very tight space restrictions. But thanks to the team at Marakana, who pitched in and were willing to film, edit and post videos for many of the talks, you can access them all here: h

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