Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 15:18 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Sebastian Berg > >> > Hehe, yeah, that difference. But if you really want that, you can >> > usually do a1[0, 1, ...] if you don't mind the ug

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Berg
On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 15:18 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Sebastian Berg > > Hehe, yeah, that difference. But if you really want that, you can > > usually do a1[0, 1, ...] if you don't mind the ugliness. > > I'm not sure what you mean, although it sounds lik

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Berg
On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 20:56 +0200, Sebastian Berg wrote: > On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 12:40 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Neil Girdhar > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:09 PM, wrote: > > >> > > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Gi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:56 PM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 12:40 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Neil Girdhar wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:09 PM, wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Girdhar >> >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Berg
On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 12:40 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Neil Girdhar wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:09 PM, wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Girdhar > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Neil Girdhar wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:09 PM, wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Girdhar >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg >> >> wrote:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Girdhar
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:09 PM, wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Girdhar > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg > >> wrote: > >> > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: > >> >> H

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Girdhar
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:09 PM, wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Girdhar > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg > >> wrote: > >> > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: > >> >> H

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Neil Girdhar wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg >> wrote: >> > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> So, how about a slight modification

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
Neil, please reply inline or at the bottom which is customary for numpy scipy related mailing lists. It's sometimes difficult to figure out what the context of your reply is. (and the context is all over the place) On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Neil Girdhar wrote: > This relationship between

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Girdhar
This relationship between outer an dot only holds for vectors. For tensors, and other kinds of vector spaces, I'm not sure if outer products and dot products have anything to do with each other. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:11 AM, wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Sebastian Berg > wrote

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Girdhar
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg > wrote: > > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > > > >> > >> So, how about a slight modification of your proposal? > >> > >> 1) Raise deprecation warning for np.outer f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 10:47 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg >> wrote: >> > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> So, how about a sligh

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Berg
On Fr, 2015-04-17 at 10:47 -0400, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg > wrote: > > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > > > >> > >> So, how about a slight modification of your proposal? > >> > >> 1) Raise deprecation war

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread josef.pktd
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Sebastian Berg wrote: > On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: >> Hi, >> > >> >> So, how about a slight modification of your proposal? >> >> 1) Raise deprecation warning for np.outer for non 1D arrays for a few >> versions, with depraction in favo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Consider improving numpy.outer's behavior with zero-dimensional vectors

2015-04-17 Thread Sebastian Berg
On Do, 2015-04-16 at 15:28 -0700, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > > So, how about a slight modification of your proposal? > > 1) Raise deprecation warning for np.outer for non 1D arrays for a few > versions, with depraction in favor of np.multiply.outer, then > 2) Raise error for np.outer on non

[Numpy-discussion] EuroScipy 2015 : Call for talks, posters and tutorials [Reminder]

2015-04-17 Thread Nicolas P. Rougier
[Apology for cross-posting] Dear all, EuroScipy 2015, the annual conference on Python in science will take place in Cambridge, UK on 26-30 August 2015. The conference features two days of tutorials followed by two days of scientific talks & posters and an extra day dedicated to developer spri