Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Benjamin Root wrote: > > > On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> >> >> My only objection to this proposal is that committing to this approach >> seems premature. The existing masked array objects act quite >> differently from numpy.ma, so why do y

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Benjamin Root
On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > > > My only objection to this proposal is that committing to this approach > seems premature. The existing masked array objects act quite > differently from numpy.ma, so why do you believe that they're a good > foundation for numpy.ma, and why wi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Masking through generator arrays

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn < d.s.seljeb...@astro.uio.no> wrote: > Sorry everyone for being so dense and contaminating that other thread. > Here's a new thread where I can respond to Nathaniel's response. > > On 05/10/2012 01:08 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > > Hi Dag, > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/10/2012 01:01 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > wrote: >> On 05/09/2012 06:46 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and >>> explain the current status of th

[Numpy-discussion] Masking through generator arrays

2012-05-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
Sorry everyone for being so dense and contaminating that other thread. Here's a new thread where I can respond to Nathaniel's response. On 05/10/2012 01:08 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > Hi Dag, > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn > wrote: >> I'm a heavy user of masks, w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy 1.6.2 release candidate 1

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > Please test this release and report any issues on the numpy-discussion > > mailing list. > > I think it's probably nice not to ship pyc in the source tarball: > > $ find numpy-1.6.2rc1

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Paul Ivanov wrote: > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > >> On re-reading, I want to make a couple of things clear: >> >> 1) This "wrap-up" discussion is *only* for what to do for NumPy 1.7 in >> such a way that we don't tie our hands in th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Ivanov
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > On re-reading, I want to make a couple of things clear: > > 1) This "wrap-up" discussion is *only* for what to do for NumPy 1.7 in > such a way that we don't tie our hands in the future.I do not believe > we can figure out what to do fo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [SciPy-Dev] Announce: scikit-learn v0.11

2012-05-09 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 06:55:12PM +0200, klo uo wrote: > This news did not arrive at scikit-learn-gene...@lists.sourceforge.net > Is above list deprecated? Andy Mueller did the announcement on the scikit-learn mailing list. > BTW thanks for supporting and working on this project ;) Thank you ve

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Nathaniel Smith
Hi Dag, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > I'm a heavy user of masks, which are used to make data NA in the > statistical sense. The setting is that we have to mask out the radiation > coming from the Milky Way in full-sky images of the Cosmic Microwave > Background. Th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn wrote: > On 05/09/2012 06:46 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and >> explain the current status of the missing-data debate. I think they've >> done an amazing

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and > explain the current status of the missing-data debate.   I think they've > done an amazing job at providing some context, articulating their views and > s

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > On re-reading, I want to make a couple of things clear: > > 1) This "wrap-up" discussion is *only* for what to do for NumPy 1.7 in > such a way that we don't tie our hands in the future.I do not believe > we can figure out what to do fo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Travis Oliphant
On re-reading, I want to make a couple of things clear: 1) This "wrap-up" discussion is *only* for what to do for NumPy 1.7 in such a way that we don't tie our hands in the future.I do not believe we can figure out what to do for masked arrays in one short week. What happens be

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Documentation roles in the numpy/scipy documentation editor

2012-05-09 Thread Joe Harrington
We considered lowering the review standard near the end of my direct involvement in the doc project but decided not to. You didn't mention any benefit to the proposed changes, so while I'm not active in the doc project anymore, let me relate our decision. It's often the case that docstrings get w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > My three proposals: >> >> * do nothing and leave things as is >> >> * add a global flag that turns off masked array support by default but >> otherwise leaves things unchanged (I'm still unclear how this would work >> exactly) >> >> * move

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Dag Sverre Seljebotn
On 05/09/2012 06:46 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and > explain the current status of the missing-data debate. I think they've > done an amazing job at providing some context, articulating their views > and suggesting w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Travis Oliphant
> Mark will you give more details about this proposal?How would the flag > work, what would it modify? > > The idea is inspired in part by the Chrome release cycle, which has a > presentation here: > > https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dg63dpc6_4d7vkk6ch&pli=1 > > Some quotes: > Feat

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Travis Oliphant
> My three proposals: > > * do nothing and leave things as is > > * add a global flag that turns off masked array support by default but > otherwise leaves things unchanged (I'm still unclear how this would work > exactly) > > * move Mark's "masked ndarray objects" into a n

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Wiebe
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On May 9, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and >> explain the current status of the mis

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Travis Oliphant
On May 9, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and > explain the current status of the missing-data debate. I think they've done > an amazing job at p

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Wiebe
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and > explain the current status of the missing-data debate. I think they've > done an amazing job at providing some context, articulating their views and >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy 1.6.2 release candidate 1

2012-05-09 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > Please test this release and report any issues on the numpy-discussion > mailing list. I think it's probably nice not to ship pyc in the source tarball: $ find numpy-1.6.2rc1/ -name "*.pyc" numpy-1.6.2rc1/doc/sphinxext/docscrape.pyc numpy-1.6

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Hey all, > > Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and > explain the current status of the missing-data debate. I think they've > done an amazing job at providing some context, articulating their views and >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy 1.6.2 release candidate 1

2012-05-09 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ralf Gommers >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I'm pleased to announce the availabil

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [SciPy-Dev] Announce: scikit-learn v0.11

2012-05-09 Thread klo uo
This news did not arrive at scikit-learn-gene...@lists.sourceforge.net Is above list deprecated? BTW thanks for supporting and working on this project ;) On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Gael Varoquaux wrote: >   On behalf of Andy Mueller, our release manager, I am happy to announce >   the 0.11

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy 1.6.2 release candidate 1

2012-05-09 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ralf Gommers >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm pleased to announce the availability of the first release candidate >> > of >> > NumPy 1.6.2.  Thi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy 1.6.2 release candidate 1

2012-05-09 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Sandro Tosi wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ralf Gommers > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm pleased to announce the availability of the first release candidate > of > > NumPy 1.6.2. This is a maintenance release. Due to the delay of the > NumPy > > 1.7.0, thi

[Numpy-discussion] Missing data wrap-up and request for comments

2012-05-09 Thread Travis Oliphant
Hey all, Nathaniel and Mark have worked very hard on a joint document to try and explain the current status of the missing-data debate. I think they've done an amazing job at providing some context, articulating their views and suggesting ways forward in a mutually respectful manner. This

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ANN: NumPy 1.6.2 release candidate 1

2012-05-09 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > Hi, > > I'm pleased to announce the availability of the first release candidate of > NumPy 1.6.2.  This is a maintenance release. Due to the delay of the NumPy > 1.7.0, this release contains far more fixes than a regular NumPy bugfix > release.