Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Fernando Perez
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Benjamin Root wrote: >> It would be nice if every pull request created a message to this list. >>  Is that even possible? >> >> -Travis >> > > This ha been a concern of mine for matplotlib as well.  The closest I can > come is to set up an RSS feed, but all the tit

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread srean
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Puneeth Chaganti wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > [snip] >> >> It would be nice if every pull request created a message to this list.    Is >> that even possible? > > That is definitely possible and shouldn't be too hard to do,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/25/12 11:08 PM, Puneeth Chaganti wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > [snip] >> >> It would be nice if every pull request created a message to this list.Is >> that even possible? > > That is definitely possible and shouldn't be too hard to do, like > Jason s

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Puneeth Chaganti
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: [snip] > > It would be nice if every pull request created a message to this list.    Is > that even possible? That is definitely possible and shouldn't be too hard to do, like Jason said. But that can potentially cause some confusion, with

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Jason Grout
On 4/25/12 8:11 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 7:18 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> Except for the big changes like NA and datetime, I think the debate is >> pretty boring. >> The main problem that I see for discussing technical issues is whether >> there are many >> dev

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Benjamin Root
On Wednesday, April 25, 2012, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 7:18 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > Except for the big changes like NA and datetime, I think the debate is > > pretty boring. > > The main problem that I see for discussing technical issues is whether > > ther

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Apr 25, 2012, at 7:18 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote: > > Except for the big changes like NA and datetime, I think the debate is > pretty boring. > The main problem that I see for discussing technical issues is whether > there are many > developers really interested in commenting on code and

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread josef . pktd
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM,   wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Matthew Brett >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: > > Do you agree that Numpy has not been ver

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Matthew Brett > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and maintaining new developers compared

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > >> > >> Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and > >> maintaining new developers compared to its large user-base? > >> > >> Compared to - say

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> >> I don't agree here. People work on open source to scratch an itch, so the >> process of making a contribution needs to be easy. Widespread veto makes it >> more diffi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Benjamin Root
On Wednesday, April 25, 2012, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Travis Oliphant > > > wrote: > >> > >> Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and > >> maintaining new developers compared to its large user-base? > >> > >> Compared to - say

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread josef . pktd
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> >>> Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and >>> maintaining new developers compared to its large user-base? >>> >>> Compared to - say - Sympy?

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> >> Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and >> maintaining new developers compared to its large user-base? >> >> Compared to - say - Sympy? >> >> Why do you think this is? > > I think it's mostly because

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Travis Oliphant
> > Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and > maintaining new developers compared to its large user-base? > > Compared to - say - Sympy? > > Why do you think this is? I think it's mostly because it's infrastructure that is a means to an end. I certainly wasn't

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Adam Hughes
I too have to agree with Andreas. I have been using Numpy for years in my work, but am not versed in C so I don't even understand what numpy is doing under the hood. I too would only be able to contribute to the code at the python level, or as Andreas said, at improving SciPy packages and other N

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Alan G Isaac
On 4/25/2012 4:51 PM, Andreas H. wrote: > I would assume that most users see numpy > as infrastructure, they write their own code on top of it. As a normal > user of numpy, I wouldn't know where it would need improvement to suit > my needs because it already does all I need. (Okay, masked arrays ar

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Andreas H.
> Do you agree that Numpy has not been very successful in recruiting and > maintaining new developers compared to its large user-base? > > Compared to - say - Sympy? > > Why do you think this is? I don't know about SymPy. But in my view (and I'm just a typical user of NumPy), numpy seems to be a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > I don't agree here. People work on open source to scratch an itch, so the > process of making a contribution needs to be easy. Widespread veto makes it > more difficult and instead of opening up the process, closes it down. There > i

Re: [Numpy-discussion] linalg.lstsq

2012-04-25 Thread Skipper Seabold
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Till Stensitzki wrote: > Hello, > is there weighted version of linalg.lstsq available? > In my case, b is a (N,K) matrix, so i can't use manual scaling of x and b. > What shape are the weights in this case? I'm not that familiar with problems with an N x K b matr

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Travis Oliphant
> > I don't agree here. People work on open source to scratch an itch, so the > process of making a contribution needs to be easy. Widespread veto makes it > more difficult and instead of opening up the process, closes it down. There > is less freedom, not more. That is one of the reasons that

[Numpy-discussion] linalg.lstsq

2012-04-25 Thread Till Stensitzki
Hello, is there weighted version of linalg.lstsq available? In my case, b is a (N,K) matrix, so i can't use manual scaling of x and b. greetings Till ___ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/nu

[Numpy-discussion] A crazy masked-array thought

2012-04-25 Thread Richard Hattersley
The masked array discussions have brought up all sorts of interesting topics - too many to usefully list here - but there's one aspect I haven't spotted yet. Perhaps that's because it's flat out wrong, or crazy, or just too awkward to be helpful. But ... Shouldn't masked arrays (MA) be a superclas

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > That is one of the reasons that the smaller > scikits attract people, they have more freedom to do what they want and > fewer people to answer to. Scipy also has some of that advantage because > there are a number of packages to choose fro

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 06:03:25AM -0600, Charles R Harris wrote: > Well, you have already appealed to the authority of greater experience, so > it's a bit late to declare disinterest in the subject ;) I mean, at this > point I really would like to see how big your FOSS is. Chuck, I am not sure th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Fernando Perez > > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Charles R Harris > >> wrote: > >> > I admit to a certain curios

Re: [Numpy-discussion] What is consensus anyway

2012-04-25 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Fernando Perez > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Charles R Harris >> wrote: >> > I admit to a certain curiosity about your own involvement in FOSS >> > projects, >> > and I know I'm not